Clearing the cache

I bought a second copy of the game incase that was the problem but it has made no difference.
I have now moved all my saved games to a memory card and have gone through the "initial setup" process for the 360 including recovering my gamertag so we'll see what that does when it is finished.
I don't hold out much hope, if the problem continues then I think I'll contact MS and see what they say.

Currently running the game from the memory card and it seems much better now, much faster load times etc.

Scratch that it has just frozen up again. :sad:
 
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PuncH said:
does it give you a message if the cache is cleared succesfully? i might try it for the hell of it.

Nope no message re cache clearance. I've taken everything off my HDD and it is still doing it, I have unplugged my HDD and run it from the memory card and it still crashes. That is with both copies of the game. Both were brand new and sealed.

I think my 360 might be going back to Game for replacement.
 
Gave up on oblivion, thought I would play a bit of Full Auto. It just locked up midgame, I have a nasty feeling that Oblivion has fubar'd my 360.

Rebooted and it has locked up again :(
 
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maybe your 360 has developed a fault anyway? and if all you've been playing is oblivion you would quite rightly point the finger of blame at that to start with, until you play other games and they crash too.

perhaps you could take oblivion round a mates and try it on his? take your hdd with you as well and test that.

if you lived in or near ipswich i'd say you could test it on mine! heh.
 
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I've seen a few people stating that Oblivion had killed their 360 on the xbox.com Oblivion forums but I never read them, just assumed it was a hardware fault that developed at the time during play.

I've seen you on and off all day VRII, and given that FA locked up your system I'd say give MS a ring asap mate. Trying to troubleshoot the problem is only going to bring you down further and ruin the hols even moreso.
 
I had exactly the same problem around about the same time, started to happen when i found my first gate at Kvatch. I just had a break from it overnight and came back to it and it was fine-ish. Its crashed a few times, well lets say loads of times but now im at about 27 hours of play it hasnt crashed in ages!!! It hasnt mucked up any of my other games though like your situation.

Dunno what you can do about it... your not the only one though...
 
I am personally convinced that it is a caching issue whereby the game just writes to the disc until it runs out of room.
The first time it went funny I deleted 1gb or more of demos and got a bit more play out of it, then I deleted the remainder and got some more play.
Then I took the hdd out and played it from the memory card until that spammed up.
Cache clearing simply doesn't work on my machine.
It is unlikely that 2 brand new discs are faulty.
My 360 is a release day unit.

So here is my cunning plan........

I am ripping lots of CDs to the HDD in a hope that they will overwrite the cached data.

Then I am going to delete all the music and try some full auto. If it works and doesn't crash out on me then I think my theory is correct.

Either way some poor unfortunate in Game is going to have to give me a new 360 tomorrow and if the poor misguided fool tells me to send it back to MS.....
 
5bjoshua said:
I had exactly the same problem around about the same time, started to happen when i found my first gate at Kvatch. I just had a break from it overnight and came back to it and it was fine-ish.

Oddly enough that is pretty much when my troubles began.
I played 7-8 hours of it solidly in a dungeon yesterday, did some exploring and then decided to head on with the main quest to find brother martin.
It started to go bad when I arrived at the encampment of kvatch refugees and tried to practice my buttering up skills on the orc female.
I think my first freeze happened there and then after the deletions of demos etc I got to the oblivion gate (eventually) but it kept freezing and eventually refused to load at all.
 
To be honest I'm quite annoyed by this whole caching issue that Bethehtsuda have decided to use. Console games aren't meant to be like this at all...

They should have come up with a feature where the cache is cleared every so often because I've seen so many people inc myself have their game lockup at key moments when zoning and thus losing important gametime. I've told so many gamers on the xbox.com forums about this cache clearing feature because they simply don't know - iirc it's not even documented in the brilliant manual and it clearly should be.

I hope developers in future stop treating the 360 like a PC where they realise they can rush out a half finished game (not that ES4 is) and just patch it later.

PS. I too had my first freeze at kvatch as I was running up the road that led to the first gate. I ended up rebooting and restarting that portion and it never happened again.
 
da_mic_1530 said:
try taking the harddrive out, then load it, then maybe stick it back in when you want to save? does it do this with all games or just oblivion
The Xbox360 resets when you remove and put the HDD in.
 
Mine started freezing on Oblivion as well. I couldn't even get out of the flaming prison at the start. Crashed 7 times in 30 minutes and only way to resolve it was to turn 360 off. Last time it crashed it emitted a continuous beep. Rang up Microsoft and sending it back to them.

Unfortunately I do not have a memory card so will be losing all my saves :(
 
This happened to my last xbox as well... i took it back to game- only to be told that they had to see the fault, so after half an hour- i told them just to take it back, they caved and returned it!

It hasn't crashed so for- though does seem to get a bit slower after the first gate???
 
mburn_83 said:
This happened to my last xbox as well... i took it back to game- only to be told that they had to see the fault, so after half an hour- i told them just to take it back, they caved and returned it!

It hasn't crashed so for- though does seem to get a bit slower after the first gate???

The store mamager of the Hemel branch flat out refused a refund or exchange and told me that I HAD to deal with MS.
Then he folded his arms and said he was not talking to me anymore.
When security arrived he told them that I had "threatened him".
He could not explain exactly how but apparently my close proximity to him was making him nervous (hence the physical shaking).
4 security guards decided to take his side and came to the conclusion that if the manager was going to refuse to refund me then I would have to leave the shop.
Leaving the shop was insufficient when I waited outside so they called the police.
The police were not exactly interested.
So I went to the other Game store and exchanged it there and then (asked for a refund and said I would settle for exchange).
Shortly after that I was just having a general chat with the Manager there about the Sale of Goods Act (he doesn't seem to fully understand it) when the police arrived.
They asked me to be nicer to shop staff so I simply explained that I speak as spoken to and am not going to be pleasant to someone who refuses me a refund to which I am legally entitled, folds their arms and says "I am not going to talk to you anymore".

What a palava :)

I forgot to take oblivion back with me - so I am heading back there now with a couple of copies of the DTI helpsheet.
 
Bernard said:
Erf, what a farce.

The first manager sounds like a proper jobsworth. Nice that you stuck to your guns though.

Before I had even finished saying to the assistant that I wanted an exchange he was butting in and talking over me, then he got the hump because I said "I don't care about Microsofts exchange service, under the sale of goods act my contract is with this company and I want an exchange".
He did not like the fact that I refused to take his word for it that Microsofts policy over-ruled my statutory rights, or that I understood consumer law better than he does, or that the "this does not affect your statutory rights" on the back of the receipt might just be a hint that MS policy is really none of my concern as I have "statutory rights" which he is oblivious to - pun on oblivion ;)
 
It annoys me that many shop assistants think that their little signs that say 'no refunds', 'no exhanges' override UK law. If it was as simple as that, a serial killer could just set up a little area with signs inside that say 'you may be murdered here, you cannot prosecute' and invite victims over.

Really good to see you kept to your guns :)

I found one way around it (if you don't want the polava) is to get a female friend to deal with it for you. Very rarely do they not cave in to a girl - sexist world, but there you go.

The police shouldn't have got involved when you waited outside the shop though, you weren't on their property and you weren't acting in a threatening manner (presumably) outside.

Were you tempted to tell the manager 'I'll see you in court then'. I'm sure once you won, you could have put the legal fees on him as well?
 
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