CM Stacker 830 or Silverstone TJ07?

Both have super cooling so the differences means nothing.

The TJ07 will have the better cooling at a given noise level, but the stacker for out and out performance if kitted to the max with Delta screamers will provide the better cooling.

But both of these cases cool well enough in there own right that it is not even food for thought.

Same goes for the Akasa Eclipse/Mirage.
 
Delta Screamers > YS tech, already stated the effects :)

The Akasa Eclipse and the Lian Li PC7+II I know for a fact are within 1/2 degrees of the two mentioned case while running a socket A rig for cooling at low noise levels.

(Akasa Ambers at 7v for the test fans)
 
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Cheers...will do.

I went with the Eclipse with 3 very Nexus fans (front, back, sidepanel). They cost about the same as Ambers now, and noise wise are about the same as Ambers at 7v, but sound much smoother with very little motor noise.

I would have course prefer a TJ07 (looks wise anyway) but am worried I would not get the revised version. With so many fans it looks like it could be noisy though. The Akasa just seems simpler.

I wonder why the Akasa cools so well. It is after all only a standard push pull setup. Is it the extra width that promotes good airflow you reckon ?
 
Unobstructed flow through the case, and the distance and height is exactly right between the two fans.

I can not be bothered to get technical at 4am, google it if you want it. A case geek has a 10 page PDF on it somewhere.
 
I've had a Stacker 830 for a few weeks now and have grown rather used to it. Would I recommend it to a friend? Probably not. It's over priced and less well constructed than other Coolermaster and Lian Li that I've owned. It's also a little noisier than I would like.

The side panels on this case are a bit of an unsuccessful bodge on the part of Coolermaster. They can be a bit of a bugger to fit until one learns the knack. At this price I would expect things to click into place smoothly and with a minimum of effort on the part of the user. The 4 in 3 hard disk with a front fan is a good idea imperfectly executed. I still have four screws left over from re-fitting mine. But it works fine.

As far as cooling goes the Stacker 830 is very good for an air cooled system. Given that the front and side panels are mesh I had anticipated that my internals would soon be covered in dust but remarkabley this isn't the case. The dust tends to get collected by the panels themselves. Thus, every few weeks or so it is easy to brush or vacuum the accumulated dust off from the outside of the case.

As for the aesthetics of the Stacker 830, it looks rather like the air conditioning unit that it actually is. But I didn't buy this case for its good looks. To be perfectly honest it was an impulse buy on my part. The main reason I chose this case over its closely priced competitors was the fact that the power and reset buttons are on the top of the case and thus fall easily to my lazy reach.

Do I regret my purchase of this expensive case? I did when I first received it and began transferring my system. I somehow managed to badly cut my index fingure on an as yet undiscovered sharp edge inside the case. The first time I tried to re-fit the side panels it took no less than 72 minutes of effort and cursing on my part to achieve closure. My family were treated to the sounds of my agonies and rage accompanied by noises like those made by a drunk fitting an ill fitting dustbin in the dark. However, with time, my cut finger and hurt feelings have healed and I've grown quite fond of this huge alumunium lump that sits under my desk.

Would I recommend this case? Certainly not to users who regularly tinker with the internals of their system. Neither would I recommend it to compulsive upgraders or bling enthusiasts. There's no side window available to display all those energy wasting neons, multiple fans and case jewellery. The Stacker 830 is far from my ideal case but on balance it probably comes as close to it as any other in its price range. The ideal case for others will depend on their tastes, or lack of tastes and their particular needs. I'm not an overclocker. I spend most of my time at my computer staring into a couple of screens rather than gazing at my components. My ideal case would be silent, easily accessible and minimalist in its aesthetics.

The Stacker 830 falls far short of my ideal chassis but with all its disappointments, I've grown rather comfortable with it. It does "what it says on the tin" moderately well.

Hope this helps.
 
Thanks for your thoughts on the 830. That was one case I still hadn't my mind made up on. I saw some posts over on the CM forums about people having difficulty fitting their video cards. Did you run into that issue ? Oh...and on the 4in1 module, did you remove the metal behind the fan ? And how are the fans ? Are they noisy on 12v or more comparable to ambers ?

thx
 
Oh...and on the 4in1 module, did you remove the metal behind the fan ? And how are the fans ? Are they noisy on 12v or more comparable to ambers ?

thx

Yes, I removed the metal from behind the fans, one part of the mesh holds two of the plastic expanding bolts in, so if you remove it the fan won't be held as securely, also if you remove the wire guard mesh (don't need it either) the fan will just plop out once you put the 4 plastic bolts on. One solution is just to replace the four bolts with your own bolt/nuts, or get a bit of silicon fuel tubing for model planes, cut a very very short piece about 3 mm long, then fit over the plastic bolt (where the removeable wire guard mesh would be) The extra length causes the other end of the expanding bolt to expand more, thus holding the fan in.

oh the fans are near silent, but they don't move much air, haven't compared them to my Akasa Amber as I'll need to take system apart. But they move a lot less air so I guess should be quieter. I have a Akasa Amber on the rear bottom exhaust, and the stock 12 case fan above that so it's easily to tell difference in air (if they are the same fans as the 4 in 1 device module)
 
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I had the original stacker ages ago and noticed the same thing too. The fans in 4in1's never fitted once I removed the metal inserts.

Are they fans quiet by the way or will you have to volt mod them ?

I have been trying to decide on a case for my 7900gtx sli rig I am building, and was going for the Akasa Eclipse, then one of those modded anodised jobs. I have decided now its either the stacker 830 or the Silverstone Tj07.
 
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They're quiet. Certainly quieter than the 35dB 8cm I had, and quieter than the 12cm Thermaltake Thunderblade.

In my Stacker I have two 4 in 1 device modules, 12cm Akasa Amber, 8cm top exhaust,supplied 12cm exhaust, side window with supplied Coolermaster 12cm fan, PSU fan, V900 fan, CPU fan @2000rpm and three 7200 rpm hard drives...and the noise levels are acceptable. You don't need to 7v mod the Coolermaster fans, move so little air be already be useless at 7v, and you do want some air movement over the hard drives.

Just spend some time with the 4 in 1, and you can get rid of the metal and guard and still have a fan that doesn't plop out. :p
 
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Thanks for your thoughts on the 830. That was one case I still hadn't my mind made up on. I saw some posts over on the CM forums about people having difficulty fitting their video cards. Did you run into that issue ? Oh...and on the 4in1 module, did you remove the metal behind the fan ? And how are the fans ? Are they noisy on 12v or more comparable to ambers ?

thx

Glad you found my comments helpful. To answer your questions. No my Geforce 7600GT graphics card fitted without problems. No, I didn't bother with removing the metal behind the fan and to be honest, I don't believe it's necessary or helpful to do so. The two hard drives I have run at 28c and 29c respectively regardless. I can't compare the fans on the 830 with others. They seem quieter than the four 80mm fans that I had in my previous Coolermaster Black Widow case.

If you want to get a case to modify I'd suggest an alternative to the 830. Frankly, I consider it daft to spend so much on a case just to bugger around with it. But I suppose there are those for whom a PC case is the boys' equivalent of a dolls' house. "Nothings too good for my Barbie/Opty."

I'll get my coat
 
I don't agree actually....I had a V1000 when they first came out on OcUK. Great build quality. Found it a bit cramped to work in, compared to other cases. When I went sli I ended up having to get a blowhole put in the top over the rear 120mm fan not providing adequate cooling. And as the holes on the front left out a lot more noise, I ended up replacing the 2 stock fans with 3 x nexus 120mm quiet fans Though as I said, it was probably the best looking, best built case I ever had. Now I want something bigger, the cools better.
 
The v1000 is a terrible case, it just wont cool anything!

v1000+ runs SLI with the included blower fan, so on that front it is problem solved. :)

THe v1000, v1100, v1200, v2000, v2100 are all terrible cases, just avoid them like the plague.

Stick a plus on them and they become great. I have had a v1000 then a v1000+, the difference is from one of the worst cases ever made for cooling, into a well built refined cooling system.

The + makes all the difference, and it should be written that way. :p
 
Yeah...the V1000 sucks allright :)

The blower is too noisy I think...but yeah a friend had a plus and found with the rear fan blowing in using a duct and the blower pulling air out it cooled really really well. And of course he had no issue with his oversized psu.
 
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