CM Stacker 830 or Silverstone TJ07?

No you made the statement, I want to see what your justification for making it was.

For sakes sake v1000+ V TJ07 1.0. As these are the ones you can buy currently, not the 1.0a revision. If you like you could quote from the a revision, but as they are not in retail channels properly yet I don't know where you could get your information from.
 
OMG Yawn

Yes i made a statement lol, its been discussed on these boards before, the general feeling is that the TJ07 is better than the V1000.

The V1000 resembles a shopping trolley: its kind of square, has lots of holes and sits on 4 wheels....

Get over it pal, there are better cases than the V1000, the TJ07 is one of them :)
 
Getting back on track with the 830 or Tj07, I just saw this :
http://www.coolermaster.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4231&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60

People having issues with pci/agp cards lining up, and very hard to get the sidepanel on and off without scratching.

Also, wondering what the benefit is of having 4 side fans, and up to 3 intakes at the front, while only having 1 rear outtake and 1 top blowhole. Seems a bit unbalanced.

<edit>Leporello : I saw your post on the CM forums as well. I won't take the risk now of ordering an 830. And I am put off the Tj07 over lack of intakes. I think I will save some money and get myself an Eclipse like I am doing for a system build for a friend </edit>
 
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CaSh_MoNeY said:
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Yes i made a statement lol, its been discussed on these boards before, the general feeling is that the TJ07 is better than the V1000.

The V1000 resembles a shopping trolley: its kind of square, has lots of holes and sits on 4 wheels....

Get over it pal, there are better cases than the V1000, the TJ07 is one of them :)
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Point me to the discussions then, I am trying to start one here but you obviously are so sure that the case is better for everyone than a v1000+ that it is above debate?

Yes the TJ07 is a better case, for some people, where on earth have I said otherwise, looks are completely subjective so remove them and just talk hard facts.

The v1000+ is one of the best cases out, as is the TJ07, Akasa Eclipse 62, Lian Li PC7+II, Jeantech Phong....

Depends what market you think the TJ07 is better in.

If you are so sure the TJ07 in hard facts beats the v1000+ then point me to a debate covering it; so I can comment, or start one here.

The v1000+ offers better value for money for most people, and is built to a slightly higher standard. The TJ07 for cooling will be better when noise is not a consideration but the v1000+ will level peg it when it comes to low noise.

Please present a argument, I am trying to see your justification as to why you think the TJ07 all round is better than the v1000+. I know it is in some areas but people reading this thread will not necissarily so just posting. TJ07 is better lol; OMG YAWN at me when I try to get your reasoning behind saying it is not helpful, and annoying.

I am entitled to my opinion, and will back it up against any criticism aslong as I know I am right, looks are subjective but cold hard facts cannot be denied.

Please enlighten me with these threads that prove your point.
 
I am entitled to my opinion, i do not have to justify to you my reasons for saying the TJ07 is better the V1000.

There’s a cold hard fact for you!

From reading these boards and various reviews, IMO the TJ07 is a better case than the V1000, im not going into a long discussion about it as its been done before. Hence why i mentioned the search button.

Yewen, if you think im being unhelpful and annoying and you dont like my replies, DONT QUOTE THEM, add me to your ignore list or whatever!! I can post whatever i like in CC as long as i dont break any rules here. Im not going to be careful what i say in my posts just so you approve of them, i will say what i feel.

I apologise to the OP, this is supposed to be "CM Stacker 830 vs Silverstone TJ07"
 
Cash_Money,
Just wondering if you have a TJ07 and if you happen to know how it handles cooling an sli setup considering there are no intakes, and the air from the rear inputs is more for cpu cooling and gets sucked out by the top blowhole fans. Do you also happen to know if the revision OcUK are selling is the revised one ?

Thanks
 
Cash_Money, Yewen isn't asking you to justify your opinions to him, he's asking you to justify them to the OP and others so that we can actually develop a well rounded answer.

You cannot simply state something as fact even if it is your opinion and not back them up if you're offering it as advice to others.

The fact that the TJ07 is over £100 more expensive than the lian-li V1000+ does not mean it's better.
 
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Cash_Money,
Just wondering if you have a TJ07 and if you happen to know how it handles cooling an sli setup considering there are no intakes, and the air from the rear inputs is more for cpu cooling and gets sucked out by the top blowhole fans. Do you also happen to know if the revision OcUK are selling is the revised one ?

Thanks
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No, sadly i dont own one, there are overpriced for me! take £40-50 off and i would grab one straight away.

The rear fans are used as intakes as are the bottom fans which should cause a nice flow in the case, the top fans then pull the hot air through the case and out. Makes sense.

Be nice if someone could shed some light on what revision is currently being sold, or you could contact overclockers via web note if not done already.
 
From my TJ07 search, they are currently selling the original version, the next shipment to the UK will be the new revision as far as I can gather.
 
Cash_money, why do I get the feeling you don't actually know why the TJ07 is supposedly better than the v1000+?

I'm only asking for your opinion so we can lay this to rest. I think you're just worried you'll be proven wrong.

If your opinion is infact correct, please tell us. I'm sure that if Yewen is wrong he'll take in onboard and be able to further advise potential users in the future.

Please enlighten us because otherwise I'm just going to have you down to talking out of your behind.
 
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So correct me if I am wrong :

The original revision has 3 issues (from 1 review I read on TechLounge)

1. Problems with the hard drive cages fitting too tight and scratching.
2. Some of the leds mislabeled.
3. Issues with screws/screwholes lining up on psu and side panel.

Any other problems ? Does anyone on these forums own one and can they comment ?

While the stacker 830 has more serious problems :

1. The pci cards sometimes do not line up correctly.
2. Very hard to get sidepanel on, resulting in scratching.
3. Unbalanced airflow - up to 7 intakes, but only 2 outtakes.
 
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Stacker spot on. Bad case flex sometimes aswell, well I thought so; for its size and transporting it did flex a little to much, although with a PSU and some CDroms in it may be better.

The TJ07 has those, the hard drives are on most cases a issue, does not really make much difference but requires a bit of a nudge to get in; not a show stopper.

The front connections were all correctly labeled on my one.

(My v1000+ isnt mind. :p)
 
Did the screwholes line up on the psu and side panels ?

And what is different on the new revision if it's only the hardrive bays requiring a nudge to get in ?
 
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Yup, did not notice anything, I would be moaning about it if they had not.

It seems to be some cases have little niggles, the people with problems are always much more vocal than those that don't.
 
I had a V1000, and when I took off the front fan it would never go back on again. For somereason the thread on one of the captive scews was shot. Ended up having to hacksaw both of them off, smooth it down, and replace with my own screws. So I know what you mean about niggles. Drives me nuts though. I expect perfection, and definitely would for the money your are looking at for a TJ07.
 
Flanno said:
So correct me if I am wrong :

The original revision has 3 issues (from 1 review I read on TechLounge)

1. Problems with the hard drive cages fitting too tight and scratching.
2. Some of the leds mislabeled.
3. Issues with screws/screwholes lining up on psu and side panel.
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Yep thats all the problems ive heard about, there maybe other small issues.

Nothing major but annoying none the less, especially if you have spent all that money.
 
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I had a V1000, and when I took off the front fan it would never go back on again. For somereason the thread on one of the captive scews was shot. Ended up having to hacksaw both of them off, smooth it down, and replace with my own screws. So I know what you mean about niggles. Drives me nuts though. I expect perfection, and definitely would for the money your are looking at for a TJ07.
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Yeh I did that on my v1000 as the springs holding the screws were to strong. Took ages to do.

The v1000+ is easier on that respect mind, thankfully.
 
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