COD4 vs COD MW2

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:07

Could any1 actually tell me how the game play has changed from COD4 to MW2? because i cant see it, despite from new perks and guns... what has changed? you still cant drive anything, its still info only.... just seems like a few more maps and sum new perks!!

I cant get over how they've had the cheek to charge what they have for this, they havn't created any new engine for it, same old gfx but a little more brighter.... things like the maps, they've taken shipment map and added a few towers and turned the setting to desert! Nothing is new init!!!

Please dont get me wrong, i'm really enjoying playing it but i know that i will get bored again soon, if not quicker than COD4... cos its the same!

HeX · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:09

Thegoon84 said:
Nothing is new init!!!

Other than the entirely new single player campaign? or the entirely new Spec-Ops co-op mode? or the entirely new MP maps? or the new interface? or maybe the new weapons they've added? or the new perks? or the new weapon attachments? not forgetting the new (updated) XP system, challenges, skins, game modes, or unlocks...

Guru · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:11

I personally think it's graphically more like WAW than COD4. So they have improved the graphics. Other than that I agree it's much the same as COD4 only not as good from a multiplayer side of things.

As for what they charge for it, I think it's reasonable. I paid £24 quid for mine and the effort that has gone into making the single player is worth that alone.

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:11

HeX said:
Other than the entirely new single player campaign? or the entirely new Spec-Ops co-op mode? or the entirely new MP maps? or the new interface? or maybe the new weapons they've added? or the new perks? or the new weapon attachments? not forgetting the new (updated) XP system, challenges, skins, game modes, or unlocks...

Sorry all i herd then was bla bla bla..... i'm asking you what has changed on face value.... yes new maps gun's perks as i said.... but the game play is exactly the same..... NOTHING NEW!!!!

Like if i was to say to you... L4D2.... they've added new things to inhance face value gaming such as new zombies, if i was to say Battlefield .... they've added new game modes, new roles, new hardware... while updaing the maps.... whats COD done... taken COD4 and stuck a few new multiplayer maps with a few new guns and perks

TO GURU
I paid £35 for mine, i mean what they charged on the consoles

McGray · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:14

Thegoon84 said:
Sorry all i herd then was bla bla bla..... i'm asking you what has changed on face value.... yes new maps gun's perks as i said.... but the game play is exactly the same..... NOTHING NEW!!!!

What honestly were you expecting though....?

antijoke · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:14

What were you expecting it's a FPS?

Davepen · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:15

what do you expect?

Its a sequel, not a new IP.

I personally think its awesome, if you don't like it, go back to CSS?

Guest2 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:15

Thegoon84 said:
yes new maps gun's perks as i said.... but the game play is exactly the same

What you mean running around shooting people? What do you want from an FPS, a few puzzles and some RTS mixed in with it??

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:18

Yet again your missing the point, i think the game is great, really enjoying it. I expected like lots of others, to prehaps actually use the hardware instead of calling in air support you actually flew it, or even a tank!.... HELL EVEN COD5 had that.....

Wish people wouldn't get on the defensive all the time, i'm not trying to dis your be-loved game, i'm asking questions on how this is ment to be possibly game of the year when nothing is new it... in fact its probably more basic since as they took away Dedicated servers. ( iam talking about multiplayer here mind not the other single player rubbish, i hate single player so only do multiplayer)

HeX · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:19

Thegoon84 said:
Sorry all i herd then was bla bla bla..... i'm asking you what has changed on face value.... yes new maps gun's perks as i said.... but the game play is exactly the same..... NOTHING NEW!!!!

Like if i was to say to you... L4D2.... they've added new things to inhance face value gaming such as new zombies, if i was to say Battlefield .... they've added new game modes, new roles, new hardware... while updaing the maps.... whats COD done... taken COD4 and stuck a few new multiplayer maps with a few new guns and perks

Oh how defensive! You ask a question you get an answer you don't like so lets belittle it shall we.

Anywho, as many others have said... what did you expect, its a sequel, they tend to just build on what came before, which MW2 has done in ample quantities.

As I said, you have an entirely new single player campaign, an entirely new co-op mode, and a much improved and expanded MP game mode with entirely new maps...

What more do you want from them?

Your examples of L4D2 and BF2 offer no more than what MW2 has done.

L4D2 is new maps - check, new game modes - check, new weapons and skins - check, new enemies - check, new interface - check...

Same goes for BF... :rolleyes:

Parsley · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:20

HeX said:
Oh how defensive! You ask a question you get an answer you don't like so lets belittle it shall we.

Anywho, as many others have said... what did you expect, its a sequel, they tend to just build on what came before, which MW2 has done in ample quantities.

As I said, you have an entirely new single player campaign, an entirely new co-op mode, and a much improved and expanded MP game mode with entirely new maps...

What more do you want from them?

Your examples of L4D2 and BF2 offer no more than what MW2 has done.

L4D2 is new maps - check, new game modes - check, new weapons and skins - check, new enemies - check, new interface - check...

Same goes for BF...

However those games didn't remove features.

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:22

HeX said:
Oh how defensive! You ask a question you get an answer you don't like so lets belittle it shall we.

Anywho, as many others have said... what did you expect, its a sequel, they tend to just build on what came before, which MW2 has done in ample quantities.

As I said, you have an entirely new single player campaign, an entirely new co-op mode, and a much improved and expanded MP game mode with entirely new maps...

What more do you want from them?

Your examples of L4D2 and BF2 offer no more than what MW2 has done.

L4D2 is new maps - check, new game modes - check, new weapons and skins - check, new enemies - check, new interface - check...

Same goes for BF...

thats not defensive, that bored of hearing the same thing from COD lovers.

All other games have improved a lot, COD4 seems in some sence to have taken a step back.....

ScarySquirrel · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:22

What is it with people complaining about sequels not having enough new stuff nowadays? "It should have been DLC!!", WHY?

Surely you knew from the screenshots, reviews, previews, videos, what to expect.

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:27

ScarySquirrel said:
What is it with people complaining about sequels not having enough new stuff nowadays? "It should have been DLC!!", WHY?

Surely you knew from the screenshots, reviews, previews, videos, what to expect.

Well for one i expected dedicated servers, 2nd i expected vehicles in multiplayer since as one of the video's they released had the snow buggy + COD5 had tanks. All then new kill streak perks like ac10 etc would have been better for manual use, i expected more co-op when using kill perks..... just wanted more tbh, but hey its not like they over priced the game... oh wait they did! they should have done this as a £9.99 download game, look at BF1943.... it was more or less an update for BF:BC same as MW2 and they sold that for £9.99

Still a good game, but this has a short shelf life

sc(+)pe · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:29

AC130 and Helicopter Gunner killstreak perks are semi manual in the fact that while the vehicles are on rails so to speak you control the weapons and who/where to shoot.

reflux · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:30

I had a rant about this in the official thread. It's only just worthy to be called a sequel really, I agree.

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:34

reflux said:
I had a rant about this in the official thread. It's only just worthy to be called a sequel really, I agree.

Thank you thought i was going nuts!

Yes some of the kill perks are semi manual, but they had the same in COD4 on single player!!! soooo....

Do you at least agree this should have been a £9.99 download? IW must be laughing their heads off saying hahahaha.... we only added a few minor things and guns hahahahah hell we even designed the maps on the same engine hahahahah.... we kicked the PC gamer squre in balls and whats more they think its a sequel aaaaaaaaaahahahah... i can hear them in my head i swear hehe!

ScarySquirrel · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:37

Thegoon84 said:
Well for one i expected dedicated servers

It was quite obvious 2 weeks before release that there were no dedicated servers.

Thegoon84 said:
2nd i expected vehicles in multiplayer since as one of the video's they released had the snow buggy + COD5 had tanks

The snow buggy video was clearly from a single player mission. Having tanks in a previous game, especially one created by another developer (Treyarch), doesn't mean it is guaranteed to be in the next version.

Thegoon84 said:
All then new kill streak perks like ac10 etc would have been better for manual use,

I have no idea what you mean by this. Manual use? If you mean, you get to control them, well, you do!

Thegoon84 said:
i expected more co-op when using kill perks.....

Again, no idea what you mean. Co-op when using kill perks? What?

Thegoon84 said:
just wanted more tbh, but hey its not like they over priced the game... oh wait they did! they should have done this as a £9.99 download game, look at BF1943.... it was more or less an update for BF:BC same as MW2 and they sold that for £9.99

Still a good game, but this has a short shelf life

I suggest you don't ever get into game development if you think that selling a game which has taken 1-2 years to develop for £9.99 is a viable option.

It is a new game. It was quite clear what was and wasn't included, if you didn't like it, you shouldn't have bought it.

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:43

look i'm not trying to start a war or anything, i'm just lost as to how this took 2 years to make, seriously tho how? I just cant understand it, when I look at other downloadable content I just think “WHAT”!!!

The manual use of the kills perks is something they did in COD4... but never put it in multiplay, so this is something they all ready have…. Any1 can get a camera to go to grey TV with a crosshair in the middle and move it back and fore the screen!!!

What I mean by co-op was 2 people flying the plane or chopper would have been something new… that way you both need to call where the enemy is!

reflux · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:49

No one can deny this is a lazy game. Whilst its good, theyve just stuck to a tried and tested formula -theres no innovation really.