I thought it was single 't'?
Anyway, how so? I think he comes across sullen a lot of the time.
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I thought it was single 't'?
Anyway, how so? I think he comes across sullen a lot of the time.
Why do you hate him?
Can't say I've ever hated a tennis player, maybe I'm missing something here...
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Not arguing it's influences. It's still English. Otherwise it isn't a melting of German and French because they came from other languages too. Why is it that French and German get to have their own language which they stole from else where but England can't huh?
Of which all exploits and colonizations went through the royal family of England and later the common wealth headed by the royal family. British troops, English ownership. Well played I say.
Either way I don't really want to continue arguing like some patriotic English lunatic. But I despise the constant pathetic attempts of the Scottish to just generally attack the English for no real reason. I think it's ever so sad when you here them saying things like "I support who ever England is playing" and stuff like that. Grow up I say.
As I said, I don't know
Irrationality isn't a good sign, you know?
It's interesting the reaction he gets from some quarters, I can't remember Henman being so reviled... who arguably was a bit of a tit at times too.
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Why do you hate him?
Can't say I've ever hated a tennis player, maybe I'm missing something here...
I could be mistaken on this but I was under the impression he openly stated he didn't play for the English. Pretty much threw dirt in most of his supporters faces. Typical scot if you ask me. Of course his sponsors put him straight
Straw man, I've already said it varies and we aren't discussiong the origins of all languages, only English here at present.
People giving it big licks about how the English singularly brought the English language to the world is ********, frankly. It wasn't England's exclusively to start with, it came from your French overlords mainly.
The Royal Family of who?
You mean the British Royal family cemented in the Union of Crowns in 1603, first held by a Scottish king?
Right, English royal family. Gotcha..
"English ownership" - garbage.
I'm not "attacking the English for no reason", I'm pointing out the errors of other people in a historical sense on an internet forum.
As for ABE, anybody but England, a lot of that is genuinely football and sport competativeness and jostling. Taken seriously, yes they need to grow up.
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I could be mistaken on this but I was under the impression he openly stated he didn't play for the English. Pretty much threw dirt in most of his supporters faces. Typical scot if you ask me. Of course his sponsors put him straight
Maybe that's got something to do with the press and reception he gets. Imagine yourself as a kind of rehomed national pet loved briefly and then discarded; "just another loser".
I'll bet he'll play his heart out for you.
Who? Ah yes the so called tennis player destined never to win a grand slam title.
Did anyone else think the above statement a bit dodgy?
Who cares about Scotland anyway? Build a bigger wall and **** off tbh
Aye, but you'd have to get the Polish builders in to stand half a chance of the wall staying errect longer than 6 months
Can't we just all hug and be friends?
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Straw man, I've already said it varies and we aren't discussiong the origins of all languages, only English here at present.
People giving it big licks about how the English singularly brought the English language to the world is ********, frankly. It wasn't England's exclusively to start with, it came from your French overlords mainly.
Well aware of how the English language is very much shaped by our many occupations. But it wasn't our occupiers who spread it throughout the world was it? That is what they are saying. The English went and made their language the universal language and you are discrediting that achievement by saying "well it's made up of other languages". Void argument.
The Royal Family of who?
You mean the British Royal family cemented in the Union of Crowns in 1603, first held by a Scottish king?
Right, English royal family. Gotcha..
"English ownership" - garbage.
Arguably the royal family have changed nationality several times and of which none of the rulers of Great Britain have been Scottish. Great Britain was not founded until after James the VI of Scotland's time.
MONARCHS OF GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND
1702-1714 Anne House of Stuart
1714-1727 George I House of Hanover
1727-1760 George II House of Hanover
1760-1820 George III (Elector, 1760-1815, and King,1815-20, of Hanover) House of Hanover
1820-1830 George IV House of Hanover
1830-1837 William IV (King of Hanover 1830-7) House of Hanover
1837-1901 Victoria (Empress of India 1876-1901) House of Hanover
1901-1910 Edward VII House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha
1910-1936 George V House of Windsor
1936 Edward VIII House of Windsor
1936-1952 George VI House of Windsor
1952- Elizabeth II (Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Head of the Commonwealth of Nations) House of Windsor
http://www.britroyals.com/rulers.htm
I wasn't particularly aiming that statement at you. Just the general Scottish attitude. I gave you but one example, you are blind to the world if you cannot see the constant anti-English attitude surrounding the country.
Can't we all just get along?
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Maybe that's got something to do with the press and reception he gets. Imagine yourself as a kind of rehomed national pet loved briefly and then discarded; "just another loser".
I'll bet he'll play his heart out for you.
:O You mean he has to deal with the media? Wow I'm glad no other sportsmen have to deal with that. Poor excuse. He never liked the English to begin with, pretty obvious.
The occupants for all intents and purposes were around for a very long time and some still are if you look at it that way. The Monarch himself was not the Establishment.
The English never went and made it a universal language singularly at all, this is absolute pish. It was done through the British Empire and then business, not the English people alone under Norman rule.
Thanks for that yet it is entirely irrelevent.
You claimed it to be the Royal Family of England. It wasn't, it was British. Not Great British, the political concept, but just the geographical.
At English invitation a Scottish King was crowned the King of England also, the unification did not remove the Crown of Scotland.
So it wasn't England's Royal family exclusively, even though it may have looked like it.
I would say the exact same thing for England with regards to Scotland in such a generalisation, the loud crowd out the quiet on both sides. It's hard to guage, but the way the poll trends are going it looks like a lot of people are fed up with the UK anyway.
I like you Biohazard: you're a man who knows his stuff and stands by his arguments, but when you get silly it undermines your other statements. I know the English language is a hybrid (as are almost all languages), but to go so far as to say...
...is just stupid and pedantic.
...is just stupid and pedantic.
Not really, I think it's quite clear. Not so much having to deal with the media I don't think that's got anything to do with the subject matter at all, but the manner in which he is sometimes treated with disdain in comparison to other Wimbledon stars. It was largely set against him off court in other ways; the ethos and establishment at Wimbledon and the lawn association don't like people who don't mould to their mirror it would appear.
"He never liked the English to begin with, pretty obvious" lol.
That's why he plays in England, lives in England and goes out with a Sussex girl?
Christ, he must vent his spleen out everyday.
Without Murray, what does England have?
Hyperbolic reaction with little substance to be honest.
What would you know about the 'general Scottish attitude'?
My default stance is live and let live, but before long an Englishman with an ignorant view of the Scots will come along and spout his pish. Only then does my attitude change to this so called 'anti-English' one.
As a Scot, it's difficult to try and like/get-on-with the English (letting history be bygones) considering the 'general English attitude' to be offensively anti-Scottish a lot of the time, in my experience. Some of the responses in this thread, for example.
At the end of the day, we're all human are we not?