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"Come meet a black person"
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why is it i feel like i probably shouldnt click that link?
Do you have trust issues?
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no, not that, there's just something i can't put my finger on telling me i probably dont want to see what lies on the other side
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I don't think people realise how segregated america is there are white neighbourhoods and black neighbourhoods and people don't often cross the lines.
When I was in L.A. all the affluent people were white, the people who did all the work for them were latinos and the people who lived in the ghettoes where you didn't go without a police escort, were black.
When I was in L.A. all the affluent people were white, the people who did all the work for them were latinos and the people who lived in the ghettoes where you didn't go without a police escort, were black.
I have often pondered that there might actually be more effective racial segregation in the US today than there was in the 1950's
Think about this, very carefully, for just a moment....
What, exactly, does a sign on the Bus stating "Blacks to the Back" actually tell you about the nature and extent of racial segregation?
(See also, A sign in a shop window stating "Whites Only" )
It's only become more visible with the resurgence of the alt-right, GOP and Trump. One step forward (electing a mixed race president) but 41 steps back with everything else. America is so backwards in many ways.
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My goodness! You'll be threatening me with the ignore button next!
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How times have changed from Charlie Williams MBE, the first successful black British comedian threatening to "come and move in next door to you" to people who heckled him on stage:
12:01AM BST 04 Sep 2006
Charlie Williams, who died on Saturday aged 76, was the first black comedian in Britain to achieve nationwide fame on television; after his breakthrough in the early 1970s with regular appearances on ITV's The Comedians, he went on to host the popular game show The Golden Shot.
He often poked fun at his colour and racial issues, and was renowned for his catchphrase "me old flower". His style was essentially non-confrontational; on the other hand, his routines often ended with Williams getting the better of his tormentors.
He was an early role model for British-born black people in an era when stand-up comics and game show hosts were unvaryingly white. His success on television was as big a culture shock as the sight of a black man with a Barnsley accent joshing hecklers with the warning: "If you don't shut up, I'll come and move in next door to you".
If people in the USA want to meet a black person I am sure they have more than ample opportunity to do so without a formal invitation needing to be offered, what a bizarre thing to do.
12:01AM BST 04 Sep 2006
Charlie Williams, who died on Saturday aged 76, was the first black comedian in Britain to achieve nationwide fame on television; after his breakthrough in the early 1970s with regular appearances on ITV's The Comedians, he went on to host the popular game show The Golden Shot.
He often poked fun at his colour and racial issues, and was renowned for his catchphrase "me old flower". His style was essentially non-confrontational; on the other hand, his routines often ended with Williams getting the better of his tormentors.
He was an early role model for British-born black people in an era when stand-up comics and game show hosts were unvaryingly white. His success on television was as big a culture shock as the sight of a black man with a Barnsley accent joshing hecklers with the warning: "If you don't shut up, I'll come and move in next door to you".
If people in the USA want to meet a black person I am sure they have more than ample opportunity to do so without a formal invitation needing to be offered, what a bizarre thing to do.
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I often find these hyper-liberals to be far more racist than most people, as they focus so much on people's race rather than treating people as individual human beings.
Surely rather than a forced meet and greet it'd be better to do something akin to the Notting Hill carnival in cities?
Go and live black culture when it's all about the fun bits of the culture, the food, the music, etc.
I accept the Notting Hill carnival isn't without it's issues but still.
Go and live black culture when it's all about the fun bits of the culture, the food, the music, etc.
I accept the Notting Hill carnival isn't without it's issues but still.
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Err, a bit of an understatement given the Met say the cost of policing it is unsustainable at around eight million pounds a year.
Police made 300 arrests during raids ahead of Europe's biggest street festival Notting Hill Carnival in 2017
Scotland Yard said officers had made 316 arrests for a range of offences and recovered 190 knives and 18 firearms in the last 12 days.
Two million people from around the world are expected to attend the festival which takes places over the August Bank Holiday weekend.
Police raids were carried out across the boroughs of Kensington and Chelsea, Lewisham, Westminster and Hammersmith and Fulham in the early hours of Tuesday morning.
Officers executed 29 warrants and arrested 26 people during the intelligence-led operations that began at about 4am.
In Lewisham, police seized Class A and Class B drugs.
How many arrests for drugs etc are made at similar sized festivals across the summer?
If you somehow taxed the people who make money there to recoup some of the costs, £8m for 2m people isn't a massive amount.
It's not perfect as I said but using that sort of an event as a way to give people an appreciation of other cultures, whatever they are, is surely better than meeting a single or handful of people of a culture in a sterile environment.
There may well be a financial benefit too, if people just stopped being ****s to each other as a result the police would have less to deal with day to day.
If you somehow taxed the people who make money there to recoup some of the costs, £8m for 2m people isn't a massive amount.
It's not perfect as I said but using that sort of an event as a way to give people an appreciation of other cultures, whatever they are, is surely better than meeting a single or handful of people of a culture in a sterile environment.
There may well be a financial benefit too, if people just stopped being ****s to each other as a result the police would have less to deal with day to day.
I think Morgan Freemans famous interview sums it up pretty well.
Also my own thoughts on most things similar to this crap. When people mess up, a lot of the time they'll come to every other conclusion but to blame themselves. The truth is people aren't born equal, they never have been and they never will be. Some people are naturally better at some things, some aren't, some are born into wealth, some aren't. But if you belong to any group other than white male and if anything goes wrong in your life apparently you're able to just say well the reason everything has gone **** in my life is because I'm in X group that isn't white male. Sure there may be some truth, but sitting there resigning yourself to that fact is not going to change anything and in fact is going to just worsen the problem. Idk how it is specifically in America but in the UK, where it matters, education + jobs, it is against the law to discriminate against anyone based on skin colour, sex, sexual orientation and a lot of other things. So it's now against the law, that doesn't mean that things immediately change, and affirmative action (aka positive discrimination) is combatting discrimination with discrimination. It is not the solution. All I can say to people who feel like they're victims is to just stop identifying with other people because of something that is frankly arbitrary. Born a woman? Stop saying you won't go into STEM because you're a woman, if you want to do it just do it. People are so quick to say oh well I'm <X> means I won't be able to do something. Just stop, believe in yourself, there's evidence of people going against the odds in pretty much every warp of life, the only thing stopping you doing that is you.
Yeah yeah going against the grain isn't easy, but changing culture is, not, easy.
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Also my own thoughts on most things similar to this crap. When people mess up, a lot of the time they'll come to every other conclusion but to blame themselves. The truth is people aren't born equal, they never have been and they never will be. Some people are naturally better at some things, some aren't, some are born into wealth, some aren't. But if you belong to any group other than white male and if anything goes wrong in your life apparently you're able to just say well the reason everything has gone **** in my life is because I'm in X group that isn't white male. Sure there may be some truth, but sitting there resigning yourself to that fact is not going to change anything and in fact is going to just worsen the problem. Idk how it is specifically in America but in the UK, where it matters, education + jobs, it is against the law to discriminate against anyone based on skin colour, sex, sexual orientation and a lot of other things. So it's now against the law, that doesn't mean that things immediately change, and affirmative action (aka positive discrimination) is combatting discrimination with discrimination. It is not the solution. All I can say to people who feel like they're victims is to just stop identifying with other people because of something that is frankly arbitrary. Born a woman? Stop saying you won't go into STEM because you're a woman, if you want to do it just do it. People are so quick to say oh well I'm <X> means I won't be able to do something. Just stop, believe in yourself, there's evidence of people going against the odds in pretty much every warp of life, the only thing stopping you doing that is you.
Yeah yeah going against the grain isn't easy, but changing culture is, not, easy.
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It seems like an appropriate place to ask this. Why are half-caste people, specifically those of mixed race from black and white parents always referred to as 'black'? Lewis Hamilton, Obama, Lenny Henry etc?
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They aren't but a mini furore erupted when I called someone half caste in here, seems it is an insulting term these days.... Go figure. I never hear any tutting when I use the description in everyday conversation, say about Gina Miller or the latest arm candy of one of the Royals. Neither are what *I* would call black, and neither are white.
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I appreciate and agree with a lot of what you're saying, but it's very much a case of easier said than done.
It's hard for someone who's been discouraged from a young age to suddenly flick a switch and decide that STEM is the path for them. It's even harder when they look at industries they want to go in and see barely anyone that looks like them.
A good example is Investment Banks running insight days specifically for women or BAME students. Walking into one of those events and having a woman talk to you and show you that it can be done is what gets those young girls believing in themselves. Heck even something like the male/female split for the Wonder Woman movie shows how badly people want to see themselves represented. I'd put money on Black Panther attracting a higher proportion of Black movie goers than any other Marvel movie too.
Morgan Freeman's views are almost utopian. If we lived in a world where people weren't reduced to their race or sex so often it'd be easier to get rid of things like Pride or Black History Month. Until minority groups are well represented and not discriminated against, these labels and events need to exist to address the systemic problems they face.
There's a minority who are pushing this always a victim because i'm a woman/poc/LGBT+ narrative, but you need to separate them from the people who are just trying to point out that they face different obstacles because they are one of the above.
I'm not sure about Lewis Hamilton, but my best guess would be because they're 'culturally black'.
Also half-caste is a bit of a iffy way to refer to biracial people. (not sure why though)