Compatibly - a D15 + Dark Pro memory and 400q?

Plec · 11 Aug 2017 at 19:04

PAULRYAN52 said:
how about the Be Quiet dark pro 3

It's a quality cooler and should fit comfortably - more fiddly to fit than the Noctua.

You're dealing with such small margins - it's really down to preference.

Preference being: Fit, future build compatibility, weight, silence and performance...

PAULRYAN52 · 11 Aug 2017 at 19:30

I don't know which 1, want whatever is coolest

Plec · 11 Aug 2017 at 19:36

The D15 has better performance (it is the Daddy) - low fan speed performance in particular - bigger fans.

Cooling per buck it loses out slightly - but that doesn't seem to be an issue?

Did you look at pull/pull performance? - if it was comparable to normal orientation then you may have your decision.

PAULRYAN52 · 11 Aug 2017 at 19:59

Thanks I will have a look

PAULRYAN52 · 11 Aug 2017 at 20:06

from what I have read there's one 1-2c difference

Plec · 11 Aug 2017 at 20:36

PAULRYAN52 said:
from what I have read there's one 1-2c difference

So negligible real world difference. How were the case fans setup? (link will do)

I've presumed there's the space for the out take fan plus re-orientated heatsink fan - will need confirming/double checking (would be very surprised if not).

With your planned 2/3 front intakes i shouldn't see you having any issues at stock. Your CPU may not be as 'impressively' chilly compared to your 280 rad top venting but the temps should still be very respectable with near silent results.

But be prepared for the size of this thing - it's huge. I mean house brick huge. People see them in reviews but can still be shocked at the size when they come to unbox and fit them.

PAULRYAN52 · 11 Aug 2017 at 20:41

it was just from forum posts, as long as it fits I don't care about size or looks, last option keep the aio and front mount it

Plec · 11 Aug 2017 at 20:59

PAULRYAN52 said:
it was just from forum posts, as long as it fits I don't care about size or looks, last option keep the aio and front mount it

I think we're over thinking this

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But, you could certainly try that out first - but obviously slightly heavier.

Not sure about performance comparison when front mounted compared to the Noctua - this is where doyll's expertise comes in.

May have a google...

Plec · 11 Aug 2017 at 21:28

It's all marginal again and case dependent.

Reality is you have a quality AIO - if the 0.4Kg difference isn't an issue i would see if you can save yourself £80.

The 6Kg in case difference is the real win - saving £80 would be another.

PAULRYAN52 · 11 Aug 2017 at 21:32

I don't think the 0.4kg would make a difference to push the desk

Plec · 11 Aug 2017 at 21:49

PAULRYAN52 said:
I don't think the 0.4kg would make a difference to push the desk

Decision made?

PAULRYAN52 · 11 Aug 2017 at 21:52

I think so, if I don't like it, I can always purchase in the future

Plec · 11 Aug 2017 at 21:59

PAULRYAN52 said:
I think so, if I don't like it, I can always purchase in the future

Yep, plus it will be really interesting comparing the temp results to your present case and its AIO orientation.

I'll stay subbed to the other thread and look out for your conclusions.

PAULRYAN52 · 11 Aug 2017 at 22:02

will be interesting, will update after I get all set up

doyll · 13 Aug 2017 at 14:08

PAULRYAN52 said:
ok just checked the phanteks to tall

Phanteks PH-TC14PE spec say 170mm tall, but cooler itself is actually 160mm tall. The added height is with fans. I had a Fractal Design Define R2 spec pg 165mm CPU clearnace and had my first PH-TC14PE in it with no problems, but I did change the crossbar thrumb screw for a normal screw.

The mounting crossbar has a tall thumb screw in it to hold crossbar onto base. That screw is only used to hold crossbar in place while mounting cooler. Once cooler is mounted it does nothing. Many cooler mounts don't attach the crossbar to base, but it is harder to position and start the mounting screws. Anyway, you can remove that thumb screw or replace it with .. can't remember if it was HDD mounting screw or optical drive mounting screw .. or just remove it after you mount cooler and center fan can be mounted flush with top of cooler fins.

Plec said:
The D15 has better performance (it is the Daddy) - low fan speed performance in particular - bigger fans.

Cooling per buck it loses out slightly - but that doesn't seem to be an issue?

Did you look at pull/pull performance? - if it was comparable to normal orientation then you may have your decision.

The only reason D15 give 1-3c lower temps is it's 1500rpm fans versus many other top tier coolers having 1200rpm and 1300rpm fans. The A15 fans are no better at same rpm than PH-F140HP_II or TY-147A, 149, 143 fans at same rpm.

PAULRYAN52 · 13 Aug 2017 at 17:52

so will it fit my ram

doyll · 13 Aug 2017 at 18:05

Bottom fin is 47mm above top of CPU, there are 2mm tabs below bottom fin so there is 45mm from bottom most point of cooler fins to top of CPU.

RAM clearance to cooler is CPU clearance to bottom of fins / tab plus 5mm

Team Group Dark Pro is 44.15mm tall complete, and 37mm with top removed.

How about you use your on mathematical skills of addition and subtraction and then tell me if your RAM will fit under cooler or not.

Plec · 13 Aug 2017 at 18:05

doyll said:
The only reason D15 give 1-3c lower temps is it's 1500rpm fans versus many other top tier coolers having 1200rpm and 1300rpm fans. The A15 fans are no better at same rpm than PH-F140HP_II or TY-147A, 149, 143 fans at same rpm.

Agreed, the Phanteks PH-TC14PE - is great bang for buck - I recommend them for new builds if top tier air cooling is required. A really tidy cooler in size and performance - looks good too. Appreciate the clarification re fan: performance size.

Thanks for your help with this doyll, it was worth the dedicated thread.

EDIT: Just noticed you posted at same time

PAULRYAN52 said:
so will it fit my ram

Are you still on the fence Paul?

PAULRYAN52 · 13 Aug 2017 at 18:10

yes I am Plec, if my maths are correct it should fit without top removed, am I correct Doyll

doyll · 13 Aug 2017 at 18:17

PAULRYAN52 said:
yes I am Plec, if my maths are correct it should fit without top removed, am I correct Doyll

Yes, TC14PE fins will clear RAM, but fan on front will not fit without removing top of RAM heat spreader, and even then it will be a tight fit if it did .. as explained before.