Confusing films
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skinnyl said:
Ehh
Oldboy made perfect sense to me the first time I saw it. (An amazin film about revenge)
Mulholland Drive melted my brain
vonhelmet said:
True, I've seen him interviewed many times about it, and each time he says there can be countless explanations, but he has never publicly gave his own interpretation of the film which would answer some nagging questions for the people who have difficulty in understanding the film. I for one, would love to hear his own take on the whole story, or maybe he can't because he doesn't know himself?
Why is it pointless though? It doesn't have to have an obvious and easy to follow storyline or plot for it to be worth your viewing does it? Films are a form of art, if you don't appreciate or understand it on the same level that someone else does then fair enough, but it doesn't make it pointless just because it confused you.Mr Bulbous said:For me, the worst offender in this category, has to be Lynch's "Eraserhead" I know one guy who thinks its the best film ever made, but he likes to stand out from the crowd, I guess he's going through a phase? he's definitely *odd* he's went through many odd phases in his life.
For me, "Eraserhead" is utterly confusing and pointless, and also a little bit disturbing. Perhaps its meant to be a bad dream? If so ... Lynch achieved this effect, but bad dreams don't need repeat viewing IMHO
If you've seen any other Lynch films, his shorts or his TV series' then you'd know this is the norm with him; disturbing people is what he does best. Eraserhead is a very good horror film, and by your own admission it worked with you too. It might not have monsters or ghosts jumping out or people having their heads hacked off but it certainly made you and me feel uncomfortable watching it - job done.
I watched Eraserhead soon after having our first son and I can honestly say that very few films have been more uncomfortable to watch.
That is not to say I did not enjoy the film, I did, but it was uncomfortable.
I personally think that films that are uncomfortable and make you think are more enjoyable than most films. Which I suppose is the point of this thread.
That is not to say I did not enjoy the film, I did, but it was uncomfortable.
I personally think that films that are uncomfortable and make you think are more enjoyable than most films. Which I suppose is the point of this thread.
If you have it on DVD isn't there an option to watch it in reverse? Putting it in a normal time line.Simian said:
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is about the only film that has confused me and it did a good job of that. I can usually keep up with what is going on in films and understand what is going on. Sometimes when I watch them again I spot something I havn't before and it makes me link it to another part of the film.
This happened while watching the Matrix films on ITV this week, but I just find the last two annoying more than confusing.
Bang on mate, well said. I like most run of the mill comedy and action films as much as the next guy, but those that are a little less straight forward and linear are becoming more and more appealing to me.nands said:
Fear and Loathing was never meant to be confusing really, more a depiction of a state of mind/way of thinking that Hunter S Thompson was so taken by. There are certain experiences a person can have had that will make this film more familiar though, but essentially it's a homage to a way of life and period of time long since forgotten if you listen to the narrative by Depp/Thompson throughout the film.Mr_L said:
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If you want cofusing try some of Luis Bunuel's films like Un Chien Andalou, L'age D'or or Phantom of Liberty, also some of David Lynch's ealier films, such as Eraserhead.
Cybermyk said:
I've seen the film, read the book and not bought the t-shirt yet....
Writer (Johnny Depp) catches his wife cheating on him with another man.
He gets really angry and nearly goes over the edge and shoots them both.
They divorce in a very messy manner, and he leaves her their house and moves to their summer house that they would often visit during the summer months.
Since he has bottled up all that anger, and is very frustrated, his mind creates an alter ego and he imagines visits from a country bumpkin who claims to have written one of his books and wants 'justice'.
This alter ego is just a version of himself that he created in his mind to do things that his sane mind cannot.
Depp burns down his old house to get his own back on his ex wife and lover (now husband).
His alter ego gets out of hand and kills a few innocent people who try and help him or have seen him as his alter ego (eg wearing that hat and behaving differently)
Ex wife senses something is seriously wrong and goes to visit him.
At this time, Depp now begins to realise that this other person doesn't exist and it's been him all along.
Wife turns up at the house, and his alter ego kills her for the hurt she has caused him. (he wants justice)
Ex wifes husband turns up and gets decapitated with a shovel.
Depp buries them both in the garden.
Secret Window is the name of the window given by the wife because it's tucked away in the corner of the room overlooking the garden that they are later buried in.
Key points, Johnny Depp talks to himself a lot during the film. And wearing the hat symbolises that the alter ego has taken over his mind.
Does this help at all?
McDaniel said:
Happens a lot with Stephen King book adaptations.
Only a few have ever been brilliant, The Green Mile, The Shawshank Redemption, Stand By Me, The Shining, Storm Of The Century, Misery, Salem's Lot, Hearts In Atlantis was a good film although if you haven't read any Stephen King books there's no way you would understand it and the bigger picture behind it all.I've forced the other crap out of my mind. Secret Window was a good story but the film does not do it justice. The only thing that made it watchable was Depp portraying a madman.
R3DBuLL said:Cheers lads looks like I've got a lot to buy
*runs off to find card*
Tesco DVD rental has never let me down - loads of films to watch and very fast turn around time. If you want to watch them again just keep them a bit longer of re-rent them!
