Considering LG OLED & LG Sound Bar, good choice or any alternatives please?

HEADRAT said:
Those won’t be ATMOS without upward firing speakers of some kind.
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True and I guess all the speakers are also wired including the rears?

Guess my question is would the above setup have higher quality and more powerful sound over the SL8YG sound bar & sub plus SK8 rear speakers, logically I assume so as the wharfdale setup uses much larger speakers and a I guess a sound bar is going to be limited on its sound quality because of its small packaging size?
 
Gibbo said:
True and I guess all the speakers are also wired including the rears?

Guess my question is would the above setup have higher quality and more powerful sound over the SL8YG sound bar & sub plus SK8 rear speakers, logically I assume so as the wharfdale setup uses much larger speakers and a I guess a sound bar is going to be limited on its sound quality because of its small packaging size?
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Think the best course of action is a demo ;)

Good review of JBLs here:

https://www.avforums.com/reviews/jbl-bar-9-1-soundbar-review.17696
 
Gibbo said:
I am no audiophile just want good surround sound with good bass, clear voice
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Then you want a separate 5.1 system not a soundbar. Unless you absolutely must have a soundbar for aesthetic & size constraints then don't do it. You're not really going to save money and you don't need to go down an audiophile rabbit hole either. Wharfedales are a great choice and for subwoofer even a Q Acoustics 3070S is going to be a good deal better than that LG and without being huge.

And it can still be super stylish!

 
HEADRAT said:
Think the best course of action is a demo ;)

Good review of JBLs here:

https://www.avforums.com/reviews/jbl-bar-9-1-soundbar-review.17696
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That does look good, so many choices. :eek:

Poneros said:
Then you want a separate 5.1 system not a soundbar. Unless you absolutely must have a soundbar for aesthetic & size constraints then don't do it. You're not really going to save money and you don't need to go down an audiophile rabbit hole either. Wharfedales are a great choice and for subwoofer even a Q Acoustics 3070S is going to be a good deal better than that LG and without being huge.

And it can still be super stylish!

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I thought the Wharf Dale system linked came with a subwoofer? Would this offer more bass and better sound quality even over the JBL 9.1 soundbar setup?
 
Gibbo said:
I thought the Wharf Dale system linked came with a subwoofer? Would this offer more bass and better sound quality even over the JBL 9.1 soundbar setup?
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I meant Wharfedale separates are great in general, all across their range (good quality & affordable), like eg I did a 5.1 for someone with Crystal 4s and together with a sub & avr (denon 550) it came to around (the equivalent of) 615 squid.

https://www.wharfedale.co.uk/crystal-4/

And yes, far above the JBL, it's not even close. In particular banish anything mentioning atmos that isn't at least a >$1k-1.5k setup
 
HEADRAT said:
Have you demo’d the JBL?

The Avforums review of the JBL seems very positive.
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Not the JBL but all sorts of other "high-end" soundbar systems (LG, Sony & Samsung) Sony ht-Z9f etc

You simply can't cheat physics.

edit: Also, when I say the Atmos stuff is crap I'm talking about it even from the perspective of proper speakers with up-firing setup sounding crap (Kef Q50a etc), not just soundbars, which might as well be useless for that.

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Sure, I get it but to be honest the thought of having something like that sat in my lounge just turns me off, I've never liked big seperate systems as they are just too ugly/intrusive.

Mrs HEADRAT would also have seizure, we live in an Edwardian Grade II listed building and that would just stick out like a sore thumb, I'm not interested in making my house look like a multiplex
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Currently I don't have surround but two Apple HomePods connected to a Apple TV 4K, pretty unobtrusive and sounds ok to my untrained ear. Sound bars interest me as they are fairly unobtrusive and even if they give me 50% of what separates could give me that’s a compromise I’m willing to make.
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HEADRAT said:
Sure, I get it but to be honest the thought of having something like that sat in my lounge just turns me off, I've never liked big seperate systems as they are just too ugly/intrusive.

Mrs HEADRAT would also have seizure, we live in an Edwardian Grade II listed building and that would just stick out like a sore thumb, I'm not interested in making my house look like a multiplex
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Currently I don't have surround but two Apple HomePods connected to a Apple TV 4K, pretty unobtrusive and sounds ok to my untrained ear. Sound bars interest me as they are fairly unobtrusive and even if they give me 50% of what separates could give me that’s a compromise I’m willing to make.
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Tbf I'm not recommending something that big, floor standers, that was just for comparison. You can get excellent bookshelves which are more compact and can blend in design-wise.
 
HEADRAT said:
Sure, I get it but to be honest the thought of having something like that sat in my lounge just turns me off, I've never liked big seperate systems as they are just too ugly/intrusive.

Mrs HEADRAT would also have seizure, we live in an Edwardian Grade II listed building and that would just stick out like a sore thumb, I'm not interested in making my house look like a multiplex
;)

Currently I don't have surround but two Apple HomePods connected to a Apple TV 4K, pretty unobtrusive and sounds ok to my untrained ear. Sound bars interest me as they are fairly unobtrusive and even if they give me 50% of what separates could give me that’s a compromise I’m willing to make.
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Soundbars don't give 50% of seperates. More like 10% if that.
 
https://www.rtings.com/soundbar/reviews/best/soundbar

https://www.avforums.com/reviews/samsung-hw-q90r-review.16157

just get the samsung sound bar and be done with it.

i have a separates system and if the AVR dies, I'll sell the speakers and replace with a top end soundbar.

there is no real difference in the average living room if you buy top end soundbars. it's the cheap ones or overpriced sonos ones that are crap. those that say otherwise i'd like to see pics of your full living rooms and the set ups involved.

I have both and experienced both. to the average person in the average living room. there is very small difference. it's law of diminishing returns.

i'll argue i could blindfold the general public who don't really care and put them in front of my 2 set ups and they wouldn't be able to tell which is the soundbar.

much like the difference between a £100 set of headphones and a £1000 set of headphones. i'd argue K702's are just as good as any headphone out there for 99.9% of people. it's the 0.1% that would be upset with them.
 
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hornetstinger said:
So what's your limit gibbo I've linked to cheapest avr/5.1 and most expensive avr/5.1 system, do you want 7.1 or more, dual subs, Atmos or ceiling speakers?
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I have no real limit as such but if a £600 setup will be good enough for me then it would be silly to spend £1500 when I’d not hear the benefits or be able to take advantage.

Our living room is quite large at around 35-40 square metres but the TV / audio setup is in half that space with TV on a oak cabinet which is 42” long and has a space area for amps as right now my NAD AMP and CD player sit there which I’ll probably move to guest bedroom along with current TV.

I want a 55” OLED which will be either a C9 or CX from LG so that’s easy decision.

The TV is in the corner as our living room has a large fire place hence TV can’t go in middle and we don’t want to wall mount it about fireplace as it’s not to our taste. So TV in corner and opposite is corner sofa where we will sit watching it about 3M away or there abouts.

Our living room is laminate floor and I do want surround sound as couple of speakers either end of corner sofa or resting on the corner sofa rear ledge.

I don’t want ceiling speakers and I don’t want huge speakers but I’m not opposed to separates if it means getting better sound quality and power but the rear speakers really need to be wireless because we have no carpets to hide wires under but the front speakers and sub will be in a recessed corner next to TV so they can be wired.

I’m not an audio phone but I do want solid bass that can thump/rumble and good clarity on music and vocals and the systems should have Bluetooth to allow playing music from phone or a google or Alexa assistant to make that possible.
 
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