Considering new car time

First trip in to work in the new car this morning. It did 52mpg, which isn't too bad but not sensational. The Leon would do about 46mpg on the same trip.

Will get some pics up when I get a chance and some decent light :p
 
Let's call a spade a spade. There's no such thing as vegan leather...it's bloody plastic :cry:

I mean it's good mental gymnastics to get people to pay premium prices for not so premium interiors.
Isn't 'PU leather' vegan leather?
If so that's Poly Urethane and certainly not plastic my dearest tamzzy :cry:

#getyourspadesrightforthelads
 
Last edited:
Isn't 'PU leather' vegan leather?
If so that's Poly Urethane and certainly not plastic my dearest tamzzy :cry:

#getyourspadesrightforthelads
Google ai disagrees with you
VwmijuJ2_o.jpg
[/URL]
 
Google ai disagrees with you
Googel AI can eat a dick! :P

It is from the same 'family' in a vague sense. But is not plastic in short.
I use poly urethane bushings on all of my track cars to replace the stock rubber bushings that perish, and gain better handling dynamics, it's definitely not just plastic :cry:
It was also what skateboard wheels were made out of, when skateboards started getting serious, also definitely worlds apart from plastic.

When you hear the word “poly”, plastic is usually the first thing that comes to mind. But is polyurethane actually a plastic? The short answer: not exactly. While polyurethane (PU) belongs to the same broad family, thermoset polyurethanes are elastomers — materials with very different properties to traditional plastics.

In this article, we’ll break down the key differences between polyurethane and plastic, explain how polyurethane is made, and explore its most valuable features and benefits.

Which Came First: Plastic or Polyurethane?​

Plastic (specifically polythene) was discovered first in 1933 at the ICI Wallerscote plant, when a lab experiment unexpectedly produced a white, waxy substance. It took researchers another five years to reliably reproduce the chemistry — but this breakthrough marked the beginning of modern plastics.

Just a few years later, in 1937, Otto Bayer and his team at IG Farben in Leverkusen, Germany, patented the chemical process for creating polyurethane.

Fast forward to 1969, Bayer unveiled an all-plastic concept car, much of it built using reaction injection moulding (RIM) — a technique that still underpins polyurethane’s incredible versatility today.

What’s the Difference Between Polyurethane and Plastic?​

At first glance, polyurethane and plastic seem similar — both can be moulded into countless shapes and used across industries. But at a molecular level, they behave very differently.

Polyurethane is an elastomer, while plastic is a polymer. Here’s what that really means:

What is an elastomer?​

Elastomers are made up of long, flexible, chain-like molecules that give them their elasticity. This means they can stretch under force and then return to their original shape — much like a rubber band. In fact, natural rubber itself is an elastomer made from latex.

How are plastics different?​

Plastics also have chain-like polymer molecules, but they lack the flexibility of elastomers. Once stretched or stressed, plastics are more likely to deform or even break. While plastics are typically shaped through injection moulding, elastomers like polyurethane are often produced using cast moulding or reaction injection moulding (RIM) — processes that enhance their resilience and versatility.

The Benefits of Polyurethane Over Plastic​

Yellow gear resting against plain background.


Polyurethane stands out from traditional plastics thanks to its unique elastomeric properties. Here are the key advantages:

1. Durability & Flexibility​

Polyurethane can withstand pressure and force without losing its shape. This elasticity makes it ideal for applications where resilience is essential.

2. Long-Term Cost Effectiveness​

Although production costs are similar to plastics, polyurethane’s durability gives it a longer lifespan — often outlasting not just plastics, but even some metal alternatives. A clear example is in agriculture, where polyurethane star wheels outperform metal versions thanks to their microbial resistance and longevity.

3. Load-Bearing Strength​

Polyurethane can tolerate extremely heavy loads without breaking or distorting. This makes it perfect for shock-absorbing products like reusable packaging blocks, where strength and reusability go hand in hand.

4. Abrasion Resistance​

Thanks to its flexible molecular structure, polyurethane resists wear and tear caused by friction. This makes it a go-to material for industrial wheels and tyres or poly rollers, where it significantly outlasts other plastics.

5. Temperature & Friction Control​

Polyurethane remains stable across a wide temperature range, from -62°C to 93°C, with some formulations performing up to 150°C. It can also be customised for more or less friction — ideal for conveyor belt rollers, where the right balance keeps systems moving smoothly.

6. Noise & Sound Dampening​

Polyurethane is highly effective at absorbing sound. For example, polyurethane foams in car doors reduce road noise, while custom-made solutions provide the exact density needed to dampen vibrations in industrial settings.

Final Thoughts: Is Polyurethane Plastic?​

So, is polyurethane plastic? Not quite. While it belongs to the same family, polyurethane behaves very differently thanks to its elastomeric properties. Both plastics and polyurethanes play an important role in manufacturing, but each excels in different applications.

If you need a material that offers flexibility, durability, and resistance to wear and tear, polyurethane is often the smarter, more cost-effective choice — and in some cases, it can even outperform metal alternatives.
 
Last edited:
Second from last paragraph "While it belongs to the same family"

#justsayin

It's like saying mercury isn't a metal because it's a liquid at room temperature :cry:
 
Second from last paragraph "While it belongs to the same family"

#justsayin

It's like saying mercury isn't a metal because it's a liquid at room temperature :cry:

Fair enough, but I did say that :P :D
It is from the same 'family' in a vague sense. But is not plastic in short.

But it's hardly like how suede is leather, is it ;) Plastic is brittle and *****, and cracks/snaps etc, that will never happen with polyurethane, hence why we used it for skate wheels and bushings on track cars etc...
Basically, I got heavily triggered like a vegan in a butchers, when you compared my rip off powerflex black series £100 per bush, bushings to ****** plastic ;) :cry: :D
 
Last edited:
It's like saying mercury isn't a metal because it's a liquid at room temperature :cry:

I guess you don't know the scientific dictionary definition of plastic. You'll be saying that dolphins can't be mammals as they don't walk on two legs like we do.

Should check out the astronomy definition of metal - anything other than hydrogen and helium :D
 
So why have you spoiled his thread&pictures with un-spoilered largely irrelevant google captures (didn't see any mention of use as fabrics/materials - google AI - GIGO)
 
Isn't 'PU leather' vegan leather?
If so that's Poly Urethane and certainly not plastic my dearest tamzzy :cry:

#getyourspadesrightforthelads

It's the same fake, plastic stuff which has been around forver. They just avoid calling it "fake" now to fool people (because who wants FAKE leather in ther 50k car) lol

Awful stuff, much better off with cloth. More comfortable, wears much better and stays the right temperature as it's breathable.

Sometimes steering wheels are still real leather as real leather lasts longer and is harder to damage. Though maybe not even that now.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom