CoolIT ECO A.L.C. and Corsair H50 Comparison / Review

Hi Guys,

Once again, sorry for the delays. Unfortunately both my hard drives and optical drives just stopped working for no apparent reason - even tested them all with a totally different machine with no luck.

I'm going to have to wait for new parts to arrive until i can complete the benchmarks. If it helps, i installed the ECO in an i3-530 system before both my hard drives broke and achieved a stable 4.2 GHZ (1h prime 95) with the max temperature reached being 45 degrees :)
 
henrybutt said:
Hi Guys,

Once again, sorry for the delays. Unfortunately both my hard drives and optical drives just stopped working for no apparent reason - even tested them all with a totally different machine with no luck.

I'm going to have to wait for new parts to arrive until i can complete the benchmarks. If it helps, i installed the ECO in an i3-530 system before both my hard drives broke and achieved a stable 4.2 GHZ (1h prime 95) with the max temperature reached being 45 degrees :)
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Henry, I find that stated temp VERY low to say the least. PLEASE include photo's and screen shots. This was a criticism of your opening post here mate. Product photo's and fancy graphs are not enough to corroborate your results here as there a a huge number of users of this forum whom are extremely capable and technical. You provide all the numbers and PLENTY of product photos but no actual 'meat' to the bones of your review ;) Not trying to be an arse, just trying to save you flaming - the experts on here will want to see cold, hard evidence :D;)
 
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I'm not sure if those results are totally out of the realm of possibility...
Remember he is talking about an i3-530, lower TDP than the CPU's most enthusiasts in this thread typically use.

No offence Henry, but if you're going to post results like that they need to be properly backed-up, otherwise people become suspicious.
We appreciate your attempts at being helpful, but what you've presented so far, inquiring minds can't include in the tally for Eco wins.
 
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.......... I've been thinking about acquiring a H50 - but during the research I came across the CoolIT ECO. Conflicting opinions on the ECO from what I have seen - so much so that I'll pass on this device; I think the performance of the H50 is well normalised & discussed in the reviews & BBs.

I don't think the comments of barrolde have helped me favour his product (probably just the opposite actually) and henrybutt just makes me feel suspicious of his identity and motives.

H50 it is then!
 
jalyst said:
I'm not sure if those results are totally out of the realm of possibility...
Remember he is talking about an i3-530, lower TDP than the CPU's most enthusiasts in this thread typically use.
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I agree to an extent - lower TDP etc but 4.2GHz @ over an Hour in P95? I would expect at very best the mid to high 50's. As mentioned, Henry but makes no indication of VCore etc and whether or not this was inside/ outside the case. And again, the CPU used in this thread is the 920 DO - another irrelevant comparison. ;)

jalyst said:
No offence Henry, but if you're going to post results like that they need to be properly backed-up, otherwise people become suspicious.
We appreciate your attempts at being helpful, but what you've presented so far, inquiring minds can't include in the tally for Eco wins.
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Agreed - my previous point exactly.;)
 
Hi All,

I have just ordered replacement parts from OCUK which should arrive tomorrow. All being well, I will be able to get the testing done then. This is the testing procedure I will be implementing:

- Intel Stock Cooler (Noctua P12 fan as exhaust) @ 2.67GHz
- Corsair H50 (Stock Fan) @ 2.67GHz
- Corsair H50 (Noctua P12 Fan) @ 2.67GHz
- Corsair H50 (Stock Fan) @ 3.80GHz
- Corsair H50 (Noctua P12 Fan) @ 3.80GHz
- CoolIT ECO (Stock Fan) @ 2.67GHz
- CoolIT ECO (Noctua P12 Fan) @ 2.67GHz
- CoolIT ECO (Stock Fan) @ 3.80Ghz
- CoolIT ECO (Noctua P12 Fan) @ 3.80Ghz

I will record both the CPU temperature and core temperatures, room temperature, NB temperature and ambient temperature for each of these.

With the Corsair H50, the stock fan will be setup so that it blows into the case as it is in a stock configuration. But with the Noctua Fan, it will be setup blowing out of the case so it is able to produce comparable results with the ECO. All coolers will have Arctic Cooling MX-3 thermal paste applied.

The test system will have the following specifications:

- Intel Core-i7 920 D0
- Asus P6T Motherboard
- 3 x 2 GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 RAM
- 500GB 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda Hard Drive
- Zotac GTX 275 Graphics Card (896MB)
- Samsung SH-B083L 8 x Blu-Ray Drive
- Thermaltake Toughpower XT 750W PSU
- Coolermaster CM-690 II Advanced Dominator Case

- Viewsonic VX2260WM 22" 1080P Monitor
- SteelSeries 7G Mechanical Keyboard
- SteelSeries XAI Gaming Mouse

The Case has one 140mm intake fan in the front, one 140mm exhaust fan at the top and one 120mm intake fan on the side panel.

To test load temperatures, I will run Prime 95 for 30 mins (would do longer but it would take far too long) and after the test has stopped, I will record the idle temperature after leaving the system on the desktop for 30 mins. Temperatures will be recorded using Everest Ultimate.

If anyone has any suggestions as to ways I can improve this procedure before I start, please comment below.

EDIT: Will actually use my Corsair HX 850W PSU instead - not that is should make too much of a difference to the results :)
 
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AndyOcUK said:
I agree to an extent - lower TDP etc but 4.2GHz @ over an Hour in P95? I would expect at very best the mid to high 50's. As mentioned, Henry but makes no indication of VCore etc and whether or not this was inside/ outside the case. And again, the CPU used in this thread is the 920 DO - another irrelevant comparison. ;)



Agreed - my previous point exactly.;)
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This was the "CPU" temperature as recorded by Everest. The individual core temps were around 66 degrees if memory serves but I cannot be sure. I did take screenshots of CPUz in this case but unfortunately they have gone with my hard drive.
 
henrybutt said:
This was the "CPU" temperature as recorded by Everest. The individual core temps were around 66 degrees if memory serves but I cannot be sure. I did take screenshots of CPUz in this case but unfortunately they have gone with my hard drive.
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Ok, can you NOT use the CPU tempeature in Everest as it's not the norm. Can you please use the individual core temps via Realtemp?
 
Also this need to be done at 4.00GHz and 4.2GHz and that really will see whose best.

4.2GHz especially as it need additional power and more volts.

Then again if you do have a big budget go buy a 6 core 980X and clock it to an easy 4.2GHz and see if it copes as well as the air heatsinks we used do.

Phil
 
Mr Paul said:
Ok, can you NOT use the CPU tempeature in Everest as it's not the norm. Can you please use the individual core temps via Realtemp?
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OK will do (or will not do depending on which way you look at it) - would you like screenshots of Realtemp too?

Then again if you do have a big budget go buy a 6 core 980X and clock it to an easy 4.2GHz and see if it copes as well as the air heatsinks we used do.
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Lol... I hope you're joking. If someone's willing to send me one for free I would love to do this but otherwise, it's not possible :(.

I will try and over clock to 4.2GHz but will depend on how much time i have!
 
Mr Paul said:
Yes please mate, that's the best thing to do as it's showing the actual temps.
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Agreed. I used "CoreTemp" but both are well recognised on these boards.

You not bothering with "out of the box" performance then?

Also, you have not stated Vcore and BIOS fan speed settings.

Please ensure you provide screen grabs and photo's as I did. (You'll see from them which Prime 95 tests I used - also speed fan will show the fan speeds and individual core temps) ;)

jalyst said:
I'm not sure if those results are totally out of the realm of possibility...
Remember he is talking about an i3-530, lower TDP than the CPU's most enthusiasts in this thread typically use.
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As I said, at least high 50's ;) :-

henrybutt said:
This was the "CPU" temperature as recorded by Everest. The individual core temps were around 66 degrees if memory serves but I cannot be sure. I did take screenshots of CPUz in this case but unfortunately they have gone with my hard drive.
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Henry, I am losing faith here mate.....half a dozen posts ago you stated the temp was 45 degrees, now you say you think it was 65?
You say your hard drives have failed and this is why you have no screen shots or other evidence.
At the start of this thread, you seemed to dodge questions asking for more tests by stating you had run out of thermal paste?
The review you have posted as the OP here is on CoolIT's website as three separate links and is the exact same review (By a certain Henry Butt) on three different review sites.

Please document your findings concisely mate;)
 
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You not bothering with "out of the box" performance then?

Henry, I am losing faith here mate.....half a dozen posts ago you stated the temp was 45 degrees, now you say you think it was 65?
You say your hard drives have failed and this is why you have no screen shots or other evidence.
At the start of this thread, you seemed to dodge questions asking for more tests by stating you had run out of thermal paste?
The review you have posted as the OP here is on CoolIT's website as three separate links and is the exact same review (By a certain Henry Butt) on three different review sites.

Please document your findings concisely mate;)
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The temperature was 45 degrees... the CPU temperature. This is different to the individual core temperatures which i did not record with the i3 system.

I am extremely annoyed that my hard drive failed. If you don't believe me I can send you a copy of the RMA request!

I did run out of thermal paste during my tests - well I had some very cheap generic paste that I purchased from another component etailer but I didn't think this would be up to the task in hand. I now have three tubes of Arctic Cooling MX-3 Paste so shouldn't run out for quite a while now :)

I was not aware that this review was linked directly from the CoolIT website. I have been reviewing products for a year or so on a variety of forums, mainly the techpond. CoolIT sent me this sample of the ECO for a forum review which I posted on a number of forums to get a decent coverage. I have done this in the past (although this is the first on OCUK) with a number of products from different manufacturers.

I hope this answers all your questions :)

EDIT: My ECO sample wasn't supplied with thermal paste applied (it is usually preapplied to the block) - not sure why but I think it may have been tested elsewhere already. I have been using the Corsair H50 for a good few months now and that also comes with the paste preapplied to the block so cannot test either with their original thermal paste. When I say "Stock" I mean they have the stock fan installed in the setup detailed in the instruction manual.
 
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I have been following this thread with great interest, but I have to say I share the scepticism raised by some other members. The original review says Eco vs H50 however we only see pictures of the Eco with no real evidence and then just a summary stating the Eco is substantially better.

Don't get me wrong I would love to see the Eco do well. It would be good to have some competition for the H50 and I really like the look of the Eco. However reading all the different opinions about the Eco's performance (not just this thread or forum) it seems like there are mixed opinions around. Another concern for me is the number of people complaining about problems installing the Eco and then we hear Cool IT say there was no real problem just happens a lot of people doing the same thing wrong:). To their credit apparently they have addressed this - can anyone confirm?

Luckily for me I'm still a while off from building my new PC and will keep looking out for news. At this stage the Eco has a lot to do to convince me though.
 
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