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Core 9000 series

Even sandy bridge was a good boost from Q6600, since then we have had 8 gens of core series chips with 3-10% IPC boost on every tick,

Whut? 3-10% are you mad? If you took the average of your broad range of 3-10% call it 6%, that would mean the 9th Gen CPU's would have IPC that is 7x6% = 42% faster, and that isn't compounding the percentages either, just using the base line. So that would mean a 7700K should be 30% faster than a 2600K, I know that if you are just looking at plain numbers the 2600K at 4.7GHz scores about 166 point in single threaded Cinebench, and the 8700K doesn't hit any where near 235 points at 4.7GHz. You need take the low end of your 3%, which makes 7x3% = 21% which is much more realistic, but again that's not 3-10% per generation, is 3% per generation on average.
 
Don't you just love forced and deliberate "supply issues"...

Intel are going to lose billions of dollars over the next two quarters, there is nothing forced about the shortage. When you have huge OEM's offering EPYC in lieu of Xeon severs you know it's a real issue, and then telling you that they expect 1 in 3 servers shipped to be EPYC vs. the normal 1 in 10.

Nvidia on the other hand, who knows.
 
Intel are going to lose billions of dollars over the next two quarters, there is nothing forced about the shortage. When you have huge OEM's offering EPYC in lieu of Xeon severs you know it's a real issue, and then telling you that they expect 1 in 3 servers shipped to be EPYC vs. the normal 1 in 10.

Nvidia on the other hand, who knows.
Trust me, long term it's fine for Intel, once again they are seeing that people are willing to pay these new, silly prices. As such don't expect them to go down anytime soon, even if supply issues resolve.
 
Trust me, long term it's fine for Intel, once again they are seeing that people are willing to pay these new, silly prices. As such don't expect them to go down anytime soon, even if supply issues resolve.

What are you going on about? This isn't just effecting people who play games, this is a real industry shortage that is causing serious supply chain issues, so much so that many OEM's have stated they will be unable to meet Q4 demands for laptops etc. which moving into the holiday season is a huge kick in the teeth.

If 'you' are buying a processor in retail, 'you' will pay more, the OEM's just cannot get stock and therefore prices in retail have gone up as some of the supply going to the retail disti's has been reduced as product is redirected. Also Intel are protecting their high margin customers, and products, not the 500,000 retail 8700K/9600K/9900K etc. CPU's but the millions of HCC Xeon parts, and the huge OEM volume they need to provide to the likes of Dell, Lenovo, HP etc.

So no I don't trust you since I don't think you actually work in the industry like some of us, and buy maybe 1 CPU every few years.
 
Trust me, long term it's fine for Intel, once again they are seeing that people are willing to pay these new, silly prices. As such don't expect them to go down anytime soon, even if supply issues resolve.


This.

Since Intel don't give out backhanders any more, they claim there is a shortage and the prices go up.
Everyone gains but the purchaser.
This has happened with SSD\DDR4 Ram
 
Trust me, long term it's fine for Intel, once again they are seeing that people are willing to pay these new, silly prices. As such don't expect them to go down anytime soon, even if supply issues resolve.

Yep. Intel complains about supply, prices go up. People pay for $530 mainstream CPU, next round up $600-700. And as you see in this very forum, many either buying them boasting about this, or blindly trying to shut anyone complaining about.

Intel has no regard about consumers, only after the money.
Look at the Intel HEDT lineup. Completely ignored that AMD TR4 CPUs exist at all.
And the halo product going to be around $12,000!!!!!!

Given that the 2990WX goes for as low as £1600 these days (in UK with VAT), says a lot. In US is around $1500.
And can bet the 9800X going to be around £600 in UK..... (with 44pci-e lanes).

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What are you going on about? This isn't just effecting people who play games, this is a real industry shortage that is causing serious supply chain issues, so much so that many OEM's have stated they will be unable to meet Q4 demands for laptops etc. which moving into the holiday season is a huge kick in the teeth.

If 'you' are buying a processor in retail, 'you' will pay more, the OEM's just cannot get stock and therefore prices in retail have gone up as some of the supply going to the retail disti's has been reduced as product is redirected. Also Intel are protecting their high margin customers, and products, not the 500,000 retail 8700K/9600K/9900K etc. CPU's but the millions of HCC Xeon parts, and the huge OEM volume they need to provide to the likes of Dell, Lenovo, HP etc.

So no I don't trust you since I don't think you actually work in the industry like some of us, and buy maybe 1 CPU every few years.

Good points Journey.

But your post comes over as so arrogant towards beany bot.
 
Q6600 still great CPUs though - I only just moved my dad off one to a Ryzen 2600 a few weeks back. I still have a heavily overclocked Q9550 (Intel) in another rig and it handles a lot of stuff fine albeit anything newer than a 780ti/970/290 is lost on it gaming wise heh.

I really don't feel like things have moved on that fast - the 4820K was the first CPU - that tempted me off the Q9550 and nothing really feels slow, etc. on it yet.

Before this 3930k cpu I have now, I had a core 2 quad 9550. Ran it at 4Ghz and never missed a beat. Was a real workhorse of a chip.
 
Yep. Intel complains about supply, prices go up. People pay for $530 mainstream CPU, next round up $600-700. And as you see in this very forum, many either buying them boasting about this, or blindly trying to shut anyone complaining about.

We'll get Kaap to do one if his "Roll Of Honour" threads lol.
 
Got mine for 493 all in minus what I got for my old processor so it's cost me 310 for the I9 9900k.
I paid £30 for a ryzen 1700x overclocked at 4.1ghz. £150 - £120 from selling an older Intel cpu.

Are Intel buyers even aware of what they are doing? Works great for the rest of us I guess.
 
I paid £30 for a ryzen 1700x overclocked at 4.1ghz. £150 - £120 from selling an older Intel cpu.

Are Intel buyers even aware of what they are doing? Works great for the rest of us I guess.

Nope fully aware but as I've mentioned in an earlier thread for me to change from Intel to AMD would cost me slightly more than just buying a single processor regardless of how "over-priced" it is. You spec me a 2700x and a decent motherboard and AIO cooler for £310 then I might be interested otherwise why would I bother?
 
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