Core 9000 series

[orbitalwalsh]

@Panos
That leak of the 9700k from that 'Spanish guy ' is indeed on z390 board .

Check out H370 Aorus , C port internal header , then X470 Gaming 7, and finally 'leaked' z390 elite board.
It's only board to have its location there, z370 don't but that was based on z270 boards

 

[orbitalwalsh]

And

Anyway enough of vega in this thread. Is there a confirmed release date for the 9*** series? Is it this month? Is it a paper launch or full proper "old school" launch with chips to buy?

just week 40 launch for z390 for sure

 

[orbitalwalsh]

mmm cpuz multicore above 4600 , 5ghz - version 17 . something. something

*disclaimer , aint my chip, nor do i have one , nor do i know who did the bench , i don't have the evidence now *

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Something, something, darkside....

just made me spill tea all over my keyboard reading that while a chuckle

 

[orbitalwalsh]

haha, and the video... touch of class. hopefully above info will help someone speed a lot of cash on hardware hehe

 

[orbitalwalsh]

This is a blue chip were talking about right?

a shade that isnt red at least .

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Just a shame the prices on these are going to be utterly ridiculous for a good while...

im sure, first batch of pre-order or stock it sticks to MSRP , after that, resellers can they list pre-orders at increasing prices due to stock demands. what happened with coffeelake, kaby lake etc . and nvidia/vega cards are launch . first physical batch goes for normal price then its a race .

would be runny to see 9700k cheaper then 8700k if only for a little while

 

[orbitalwalsh]

do we know yet what day the i7 9900k will go on sale ?? and also any info yet on z390 mb's??

if it helps, 8th is pre-order . pre order for boards i believe , as always now it seems they launch a little after

 

[orbitalwalsh]

ryzen is damn nice for gaming for current prices too

speaking of ryzen... seems most boards are being based on their X470 counter parts but in some cases like Aorus Master/ ROG Extreme upping the Phase Count .

 

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[orbitalwalsh]

And rumoured to be 'launched' on 8th October and reviewed/on sale from 19th October.

I think its Motherboard launch also on the 8th?

pre-order is the work your looking for on the 8th

 

[orbitalwalsh]

9900k at 5.3ghz will be a beat i must admit but not worth the pricing, i7 9700k looks to be a gamers choice.

Is it 5ghz all core/multicore?

you'll see media marketing soon with 5.3ghz and 4333hz being loaded , ITX boards pushing 5000hz odd . all vendors have them primed, whilst they leaked the same media pictures to sites like Videocardz - use the term leaked very loosely there , they keep the hard core details for product launch

seen a few snaps, very light bench work with 5ghz and basic cooler can pass cinebench r15 but once you start price you need water

have feeling AMD may have to go another way with Zen2 - if they can get CCX to 6 cores, allow 12 core chips but allow one CCX to be turned off allowing interconnect weakness to be removed and hopefully a larger overclock to one core/better stability... just a theory - and naturally keeping it cheaper then intel!

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I have a theory that with Ryzen 1, the motherboard manufacturers thought that the CPU would not be anywhere near as successful as it is / was, so hedged bets and put little investment into the products. However with the refresh and sales so far, im pretty certain that come X570 or whatever it will be called and the B550 etc, that we may well see a lot more options from the vendors as there is already a massive following now behind AMD, they have gone from a curiosity to an actual competitor and are taking sales.

If i manufacturer for 2 people and one of those only sells 1 unit for 10 of the other, then my focus is going to be on the one with the most sales, however once i see an uptake in sales for the smaller vendor, im going to want a slice of that pie and try and keep current etc.

Because the engineering samples were no were where near as accurate as retail versions they shipped. Before they knew actual performance, boards were pretty much designed, manufactured etc .

Also AMD didn't give much in the way of Marketing as they have nothing to give

Also, intel will generate more cash for Vendors due to the nature of of 2 gens to a Socket . That makes money, not 4 gens on one socket . Had DDR5 not been scheduled for 2020 then AM4 might of gone further

 

[orbitalwalsh]

seems aorus/Gigabyte boards are all 4+8 CPU pin and Master is 8+8

Pricing ranging from £144 to £290 for them

Just seen Z390 prices on rainforest, they have quite a few varieties listed for pre-order and the prices make grim reading.

because Z370 isn't EOL so these will replace higher end Z370 boards and leave mid range, guessing why they have extra 4 pins in he Gigabyte boards compared to z370 flagships not having them

 

[orbitalwalsh]

But but everyone says you dont need a Z390 board to run a 9900K???!! well ok you dont need one, but surely the Z370 will allow you to OC a 9900k to its maximum potential right... right????

if ou've got a flagship Z370- will be fine...

still need a damn cooler on it, prime at 5ghz with a £40 air cooler soon sees it reset its self

What is the z390 chipset bringing over z370? Is it just integrated usb 3?

basically H370 in Z form - and then realising need a lot more phase and power!

honestly Z390 was on the design boards even before z370 shipped

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I thought the Solder was going to make these chips a doddle to keep cooled, and allow 5.3ghz on air or a decent AIO so potentially all the solder has done is actually enabled them to cram an 8/16 into a 8700k casing and allow you to hit 5ghz... im beginning to think these chips probably wont go much past the 5ghz 24/7.

it helps but im guessing the share heat 8 cores puts out when at 5.3ghz is a lot!!!!!! get to the point of die is so small for the power it holds you can only transfer so much heat away- kind of see why they wanted this on 10nm

also, 5PM should be Pre-order time... not like Forest doing it now

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Wouldn't you have the same problem on 10nm? OK, the heat and power us reduced somewhat, but you are concentrating it into an even smaller die.

true, leads me to believe first 10nm chips wont be great haha

5.3 for 8 cores is not happening.

Expect lower for AVX, too

seen the Ultra and Strix do it - will post up the snap shot after the NDA as i'm not getting slapped for it

lucky of the draw for chips , but games fine for ones that can - and yes AVX will need a good offset

 

[orbitalwalsh]

slight divert

https://videocardz.com/78523/intel-to-announce-core-i9-9900xe-basin-falls-refresh-cpu

is meant to be 22 core chip for this platform, and new x299 boards aka Master and Meg

why oh why there is a core version.... cheaper to grab 8700 non k and h370 for workstation requirements

 

[orbitalwalsh]

So have I, but those clocks are fairly conditional.

good cooler and luck of the draw with chips like everything else , **** took more then others

I like the look of the Hero, and the Gigabyte Master, but Gigabyte worry me that they skimp on VRM's etc, atleast i have had good experiences with Asus. I wouldnt even consider MSI, inferior garbage products.. its a shame Asrock bios are a mess as i like their boards, well the AMD boards Bios are a mess, not sure how the current Intel ones are.

Any thoughts on the new EVGA stuff?

all 6 phase doubled, all boards are doubled - just depends on the mosfet used etc . Think Gigabyte put more effort in , and then adding 4+8 pin to entry model - just have to see how the heatsink copes !

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Meh i've been buggering about waiting for these for six months now. £100 more than I was expecting but sod it, if I don't pre-order will have to wait ages for them to get extra stock in.

"Thank you for your order with Overclockers UK!

We have sent you the order confirmation by email."

You're welcome. I feel dirty.

Gloat when you see them rise up by £100 next month