Core 9000 series

Troezar · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:11

jigger said:
It's pretty obvious how far ahead AMD are. Intel are in a very bad situation and unless they have planed something in secret without the boards go ahead it will be many years before they can make challenges to AMD's parts.

I'd love to know what AMD have planned after Ryzen 7nm. I bet Intel would too

jigger · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:11

gavinh87 said:
So Intel are doomed?

Do you have some kind of post interpretation tool?

jigger · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:14

Troezar said:
I'd love to know what AMD have planned after Ryzen 7nm. I bet Intel would too

Yeah, AMD at 7nm could really put Intel in deep water. It's a little worrying TBH.

Jamie Archer · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:21

jigger said:
It's pretty obvious how far ahead AMD are. Intel are in a very bad situation and unless they have planed something in secret without the boards go ahead it will be many years before they can make challenges to AMD's parts.

You really are in your own little world and seem completely oblivious to the FACTS that keep getting reiterated to you over and over and over again.

How can you deny facts? Intel are in a bad situation you say... how? (they have been at the top of the market for the best part of a decade).

How have Intel got to take the challenge to AMD when they have dominated for the last decade and STILL outperform AMD core for core on all levels (ipc, oc headroom and out of the box clocks).

Please provide a single solitary piece of evidence, a fact or just something to back what you say.

You seem to have AMD blinkers on and in utter denial, i think you must just be here to wind people up as what you say is unbelievably obscure and delusional.
AMD are obviously ahead of intel? seriously?....Where have you been over the last 10 years, What dont you get about a better IPC, Better stock clocks, better OC headroom? These can all be backed by statistical facts, it is AMD that has to try to compete and take it to Intel, not the other way around.

Come on, just for once add something concrete to what youre saying man.

Lets start by elaborating with a link or fact on "it's pretty obvious how far amd are ahead"?
Go......

Jamie Archer · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:22

NinjaCool said:
Don't worry Jamie jokes on them both because Apple and Samsung are going to merge and take over Disney!

Lol, are they kicking Jigga out first?

chroniclard · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:23

Jigger either just a constant endless trolling or delusional.

Now I love my 2700X, it does a fantastic job for me, but I am not going to claim its better for gaming than an 8700k.

jigger · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:24

Jamie Archer said:
You really are in your own little world and seem completely oblivious to the FACTS that keep getting reiterated to you over and over and over again.

How can you deny facts? Intel are in a bad situation you say... how? (they have been at the top of the market for the best part of a decade).

How have Intel got to take the challenge to AMD when they have dominated for the last decade and STILL outperform AMD core for core on all levels (ipc, oc headroom and out of the box clocks).

Please provide a single solitary piece of evidence, a fact or just something to back what you say.

You seem to have AMD blinkers on and in utter denial, i think you must just be here to wind people up as what you say is unbelievably obscure and delusional.
AMD are obviously ahead of intel? seriously?....Where have you been over the last 10 years, What dont you get about a better IPC, Better stock clocks, better OC headroom? These can all be backed by statistical facts, it is AMD that has to try to compete and take it to Intel, not the other way around.

Come on, just for once add something concrete to what youre saying man.

Lets start by elaborating with a link or fact on "it's pretty obvious how far amd are ahead"?
Go......

You seem seriously out of touch with what is happening and unable to see past gaming, and even then past benchmarking. I kind of get that... but these are desktop chips and the market is much bigger.

gavinh87 · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:25

chroniclard said:
Jigger either just a constant endless trolling or delusional.

Now I love my 2700X, it does a fantastic job for me, but I am not going to claim its better for gaming than an 8700k.

+1
Currently toying with the idea of a 2700x myself....

gavinh87 · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:26

jigger said:
You seem seriously out of touch with what is happening and unable to see past gaming, and even then past benchmarking. I kind of get that... but these are desktop chips and the market is much bigger.

Not a single thing to backup your claims again.
You are literally a leech on this forum you give nothing back.

jigger · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:27

chroniclard said:
Jigger either just a constant endless trolling or delusional.

Now I love my 2700X, it does a fantastic job for me, but I am not going to claim its better for gaming than an 8700k.

You can only have the same conversation with the same people so many times.

chroniclard · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:28

One bonus for Ryzen is you get to spend days and days fiddling with memory, you just dont get that with Intel, proper quality that.

jigger · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:30

gavinh87 said:
Not a single thing to backup your claims again.
You are literally a leech on this forum you give nothing back.

It's painfully obvious AMD have better products. You'd need to be stupid not to see that.

gavinh87 · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:31

jigger said:
It's painfully obvious AMD have better products. You'd need to be stupid not to see that.

Gonna need more than just your say so to convince me. Throw me an undeniable bone.

jigger · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:35

gavinh87 said:
Gonna need more than just your say so to convince me. Throw me an undeniable bone.

Pick a metric.
Performance per watt.
Performance per pound.
Performance per U.
Performance per mm2.

Troezar · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:36

chroniclard said:
One bonus for Ryzen is you get to spend days and days fiddling with memory, you just dont get that with Intel, proper quality that.

Apparently that's not an issue now. Gen one of anything usually has a few issues. I think Intel have had a few of their own.

As for Intel always being on top, we used to think that of Nokia... If Intel go fabless they will only have design not process to keep them ahead, then it will get interesting...

jigger · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:42

Troezar said:
Apparently that's not an issue now. Gen one of anything usually has a few issues. I think Intel have had a few of their own.

As for Intel always being on top, we used to think that of Nokia... If Intel go fabless they will only have design not process to keep them ahead, then it will get interesting...

It will be interesting in a few years maybe, until then I think it will be more of the same. I hope I'm wrong and Intel do find a way out of this mess they have caused.

gavinh87 · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:43

jigger said:
Pick a metric.
Performance per watt.
Performance per pound.
Performance per U.
Performance per mm2.

All of which mean very little to the end user. Except the value for money, yes they do have that. Performance per watt? You're having a laugh aren't you? Vega........

jigger · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:44

gavinh87 said:
All of which mean very little to TO ME. Except the value for money, yes they do have that. Performance per watt? You're having a laugh aren't you? Vega........

PMSL.

chroniclard · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:49

Troezar said:
Apparently that's not an issue now. Gen one of anything usually has a few issues. I think Intel have had a few of their own.

As for Intel always being on top, we used to think that of Nokia... If Intel go fabless they will only have design not process to keep them ahead, then it will get interesting...

Its still an issue for many, though can be mitigated by buying the top end of memory.

chroniclard · 8 Sep 2018 at 17:51

So, will there also be new motherboards for these chips?

Seems to me it will cost me 7-800 quid, already got RAM, to relegate the 2700X to sons PC and upgrade mine. Unsure if will need new cpu block, mebbe just a fitting kit.