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Core 9000 series

ryzen is damn nice for gaming for current prices too :)

speaking of ryzen... seems most boards are being based on their X470 counter parts but in some cases like Aorus Master/ ROG Extreme upping the Phase Count .
 
Ryzen will be my next upgrade path if they continue with the progress they are making with there CPU,s and i may even jump a GPU if they can get something out to compete with nvidia.

I have even recommended Ryzen setups to people on here so people saying its not an option for gaming are crazy or just intel fanboys.
 
peahead said:
Ryzen will be my next upgrade path if they continue with the progress they are making with there CPU,s and i may even jump a GPU if they can get something out to compete with nvidia.

I have even recommended Ryzen setups to people on here so people saying its not an option for gaming are crazy or just intel fanboys.
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If you want the absolute maximum frame rate for most games, and price isn't a concern then Intel is the way to go.

But you are right, Ryzen is perfectly fine for gaming and to completely write it off is a bit strange

Having said that, I'll be upgrading my 4 year old 6 core i7 5930K on the x99 platform, to an Intel 9900K on the z390 platform.
 
My decision to go Ryzen was when I looked at the price of the 4 core 4 thread i3-8100 compared to the 6 core 12 thread Ryzen 5 2600. Then I checked 3D Mark Timespy for CPU results and it was nearly twice the score for like £ 12 more.
 
String said:
Which, by definition means that the 8700k is the "best" for gaming. You can see why people who have no inclination for further research would make their purchase decision accordingly.

Personally, if it was such a black/white decision then it would take all the fun out it for me. :)
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Yep you are right, Intel are currently "Best" for gaming if you have to have the absolute best performance... however if your ok with a small % slower then AMD is more than capable :) however this may well change next year with 7nm Ryzen, until Intel can get 10nm out the door, infact i expect they may need a couple of 10nm revisions to bypass AMD at 7nm, especially if AMD do a 7nm refresh before Intel can even get 10nm solid.
 
nlel1975 said:
My decision to go Ryzen was when I looked at the price of the 4 core 4 thread i3-8100 compared to the 6 core 12 thread Ryzen 5 2600. Then I checked 3D Mark Timespy for CPU results and it was nearly twice the score for like £ 12 more.
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Good job, my only real advice to you would be ditch the 32gb of slow ram, its really not needed, 16gb is more than enough, sell it and you should be more than able to buy decent 3200mhz+ 16GB kits in its place, you will definitely appreciate and notice the uplift.
 
SiDeards73 said:
Good job, my only real advice to you would be ditch the 32gb of slow ram, its really not needed, 16gb is more than enough, sell it and you should be more than able to buy decent 3200mhz+ 16GB kits in its place, you will definitely appreciate and notice the uplift.
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To be fair if I am right the performance difference between slow RAM and fast RAM is like 10% to 15% but it may be more I don't know, you were saying about going Ryzen because Intel is only 8% better in gaming, well this to me is similar for RAM.
 
nlel1975 said:
To be fair if I am right the performance difference between slow RAM and fast RAM is like 10% to 15% but it may be more I don't know, you were saying about going Ryzen because Intel is only 8% better in gaming, well this to me is similar for RAM.
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While you have a valid point, 32GB of ram is extreme overkill if your just gaming, you can easily chop that in for enough cash to just get much faster ram, and get that 15%+ improvement, while losing nothing at all really. But its upto you, i used to run 16GB of ram when most people still run 4GB, just because i could, so i understand where your coming from.

I just think with Ryzen its best to have the best ram available, as the chip is just that much better with better ram, not just for gaming but for everything, as the chips performance is directly tied to its ram speed, so you will be speeding up everything you do on the PC, all of the time, where as that 32GB will sit there pretty much unused 99% of the time, id be surprised if you ever get much over 12GB of ram used during the PC's lifespan if your only ever gaming really.
 
I know but I got what I thought was a really good deal on the 32GB of RAM, I'm not a heavy gamer and am a light windows user, I mainly browse the web. I just like the thought of having 32GB of RAM I know its overkill and I'll never use all of it but I am happy with the performance I am seeing. I did have DDR3 1333 RAM before so even this 2133 RAM is faster. Back in the DDR3 days 2133 RAM was quite fast and DDR4 has only been out 4 years or so, PCs haven't come that far in 4 years.
 
nlel1975 said:
I know but I got what I thought was a really good deal on the 32GB of RAM, I'm not a heavy gamer and am a light windows user, I mainly browse the web. I just like the thought of having 32GB of RAM I know its overkill and I'll never use all of it but I am happy with the performance I am seeing. I did have DDR3 1333 RAM before so even this 2133 RAM is faster. Back in the DDR3 days 2133 RAM was quite fast and DDR4 has only been out 4 years or so, PCs haven't come that far in 4 years.
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If your happy with it all, thats all that matters at the end of the day mate :) your the one that needs to be happy, not me or anyone else.
 
VincentHanna said:
You can get 2x16GB of CAS 14 3200Mhz DDR4 though :)

Though anything more than 16GB (for games anyway) is a bit pointless.
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I'm not trolling here or in anyway diminishing your point, but I could buy a 2080ti, a thread ripper with 32 cores and 64 threads, I could afford it but that doesn't mean I am going to. I don't need the very best, I am on a tight budget not because I don't have the funds but because I just don't want to spend any more money than is absolutely necessary to get a half decent system.
 
nlel1975 said:
I could afford it but that doesn't mean I am going to. I don't need the very best, I am on a tight budget not because I don't have the funds but because I just don't want to spend any more money than is absolutely necessary to get a half decent system.
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And I'm not trying to diminish your point either, but aren't you contradicting yourself? You say you're on a budget, but splash out on 32GB RAM when, by your own admission, you wanted e-peen, but then you're willing to sacrifice system performance by having slow RAM just to satisfy the peen?

Not needing the very best is different from gimping unnecessarily.
 
I've never had 32GB of RAM before it's a novelty, I was prepared to sacrifice a bit of performance to have the novelty of 32GB of RAM. The 3200 stuff costs more than what I paid for 32GB anyway.
 
SiDeards73 said:
If your happy with it all, thats all that matters at the end of the day mate :) your the one that needs to be happy, not me or anyone else.
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Im thinking to get another 16gb for my pc,, just to future proof myself really, as my cpu should (fingers crossed) last a good few years. I have only got 2666mhz memory and my pc seems plenty fast enough as I get 1600 in cinebench, plus the memory speed for my cpu is 2666mhz
 
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