Could humans ever live harmoniously
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Soldato
I don't think so, not any time soon anyway. Right now humans can't even agree on what date format to use, or what side of the road to drive on. We're a long way from being "Nation Earth" imo.
World Peace is something I think about regularly.
Humanity "could" have lived in peace but it's not possible now because humanity has become enslaved and commercialised through generational societal brainwashing, and those with the power aren't showing signs of relinquishing ownership any time soon therefore fighting and dissonance will keep rising until the kettle boils over here and there.
Humanity "could" have lived in peace but it's not possible now because humanity has become enslaved and commercialised through generational societal brainwashing, and those with the power aren't showing signs of relinquishing ownership any time soon therefore fighting and dissonance will keep rising until the kettle boils over here and there.
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Associate
Yes I agree with this, especially after reading "Guns, Germs and Steel" and "Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind". We evolved to live in small groups where everyone looked after each other and worked together because it benefited the group directly, whereas now we are separated from our families for most of the day and forced to work with strangers performing mundane tasks.
It seems that people still living in "primitive" cultures are a lot happier than "civilised" people and work less.
Caporegime
No. Human beings are scum. You've only got to look at the way they treat animals.
The agricultural revolution was the point of no return for living in harmony. Now humans are increasingly dependent on distant third parties for food, accommodation, security, raising offspring etc. Autonomy has been lost. The commoditization of time has cost the human race.
No way! Sir! Dude!
Caporegime
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really? they seem to be barely surviving, and dieing of easily curable conditions whenever they're on the tv.
where as we can do pretty much anything we like within reason, i mean can travel, can eat anything from anywhere, drink a different drink every day for a year.
if your job is mundane minimise its time and enjoy the rest of your life.
do you really want to be spending your life, subsistence farming a ****** plot of land till you die?
it didnt cost humanity it liberated humanity.
Associate
A lot of diseases are the result of close contact with livestock and living in constant close proximity to so many other humans. Don't know which ones are barely surviving, but I've seen plenty of tribes in the pacific isles and rain forests who look pretty happy. And any of those people could join the modern world if they wished, so there must be a reason they choose not to.
The point is you would not be subsistence farming. There was a reason humans lived as hunter gatherers for 100k+ years. Farming is a lot more work and you are at the whim of the weather/seasons and highly likely to end up starving due to a bad harvest. Hunter gatherers could just move on to another area once food ran out at a particular location.
the fact they have zero skill and nothing of value outside their small communities meaning leaving is instant poverty?
well that sounds delightful...
subsistence hunting and gathering then, personally i prefer motorcycles and being able to see clearly than trying to skin a goat.
Soldato
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i think he means collectively as a community there's nothing stoping them taking on modern technology and ways of life (albeit yes it'd take a while) however they choose not to.
there is something wrong with our culture, just look at youth suicide rates in the uk, people born into a world which is better than it's ever been but something's driving them to desperation.
Soldato
Never because we have an evolutionary drive to procreate
I'll prove he does when you prove he doesn't
I asked first...
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it's impossible to prove god doesn't exist, you can only prove he does exist.
I mean I can't prove that flying whales exist, but I don't assume they do.
Caporegime
I can't sleep, too much work on so i digressed and started pondering the above...
So, what do you reckon?
Could humans ever reach a level of intelligence, emotional or otherwise which meant working together for the greater good prevailed? A world where science trumped religion. Where narrow minded us and them attitutes, nationalism and so forth were no more?
I for one dont hold up much hopeI dont understand the psychology behind it(feel free to enlighten) but i believe humans, the masses specifically are inherently drawn towards silos no matter how big or small that they can feel a sense of belonging to. Wether that be religion, a country, a football club... perhaps its a pack thing.
Random and slightly ridiculous chain of thought, i know!
No, because:
- Anime
- Donald 'Two Scoops' Trump (can we have a hey LOL for this one!)
- Most people care more about themselves, to the exclusion of others.
Soldato
No. This is demonstrated at a very basic level. Take football for example. Local teams are essentially like "Clans" or "Tribes" which people will defend its honour through protest, show of force and violence in many instances.
The same can be applied to Family, Nations, Continents, Races and Religions. It's not something that can be easily changed, I think something like this is within all humans at our core.
The same can be applied to Family, Nations, Continents, Races and Religions. It's not something that can be easily changed, I think something like this is within all humans at our core.