COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

cheesefest · 7 Sep 2022 at 20:36

Freefaller said:
People were panicked by the idiot government 's appalling Comms.

The media and govt made out that we all were going to get Covid like a child losing their milk teeth.

Plus showed how some people have no store cupboard. Glad I had a store cupboard and still do.

jsmoke · 11 Sep 2022 at 21:34

Embalmer's are finding strange clots in corpses.

Richard Hirschman, a licensed funeral director and embalmer in Alabama, recalled that he has been in the trade since the tragedy of 9/11.

“Prior to 2020, 2021, we probably would see somewhere between 5 to 10 percent of the bodies that we would embalm [having] blood clots,” Hirschman told The Epoch Times.

“We are familiar with what blood clots are, and we’ve had to deal with them over time,” he said.

He says that now, 50 percent to 70 percent of the bodies he sees have clots

The Epoch Times | Breaking News, Latest News, World News and Videos

Get the latest breaking news, in-depth reporting, and insightful analysis on a wide range of topics, including politics, culture, and world events | The Epoch Times is a trusted source for real news and information that is free from influence and bias.

www.theepochtimes.com

cheesefest · 12 Sep 2022 at 08:46

Face mask wearing in Spain.
Still have to wear masks on public transport. No exemptions unless you are severely disabled, such as a man in a wheelchair with cerebral palsy being pushed by relative or carer.
Only seen about 10 people wearing them outside.
Saw one man wearing a mask in breakfast room when getting food/drink. He looked embarrassed

tom_e · 12 Sep 2022 at 09:28

jsmoke said:
Embalmer's are finding strange clots in corpses.

The Epoch Times | Breaking News, Latest News, World News and Videos

Get the latest breaking news, in-depth reporting, and insightful analysis on a wide range of topics, including politics, culture, and world events | The Epoch Times is a trusted source for real news and information that is free from influence and bias.

www.theepochtimes.com

This was reported in the early Covid victims wasn't it? Probably due to almost everyone having had at least a mild infection at some point by now.

Rroff · 12 Sep 2022 at 10:01

At the expense of entertaining conspiracy angles - there has been an up tick of stuff like that reported including in places with low vaccine coverage. COVID has potential tunnelling nanotube functionality so I dunno if there is any related mechanism to that. Although I'm not ruling out a vaccine link either.

delta0 · 12 Sep 2022 at 10:03

jsmoke said:
Embalmer's are finding strange clots in corpses.

The Epoch Times | Breaking News, Latest News, World News and Videos

Get the latest breaking news, in-depth reporting, and insightful analysis on a wide range of topics, including politics, culture, and world events | The Epoch Times is a trusted source for real news and information that is free from influence and bias.

www.theepochtimes.com

I hope they determine increases caused by covid and caused by an increased sedentary lifestyle people have had since the pandemic lockdowns and WFH.

Rroff · 12 Sep 2022 at 10:04

delta0 said:
I hope they determine increases caused by covid and caused by an increased sedentary lifestyle people have had since the pandemic lockdowns and WFH.

If anything in that article is true - then the clots are likely not caused by sedentary lifestyle. I've not seen other studies go into that much detail as to the composition and so on involved to compare.

CapitalOne · 12 Sep 2022 at 10:08

delta0 said:
I hope they determine increases caused by covid and caused by an increased sedentary lifestyle people have had since the pandemic lockdowns and WFH.

The first half fine, why though do you hope WFH causes blood clots?

delta0 · 12 Sep 2022 at 10:59

CapitalOne said:
The first half fine, why though do you hope WFH causes blood clots?

I’ve seen some articles show issues with the heart caused by sedentary lifestyle. WFH is not the direct cause because people will still exercise but for many people their only exercise was the commute. I know it is a controversial thing hence understanding the impact of this needs to be done as there are indicators that since lockdowns people are exercising less so we need to be open minded to the possibility. We’ve also had a few people at work have problems and every single one of them were WFH people.

tom_e · 12 Sep 2022 at 11:00

CapitalOne said:
The first half fine, why though do you hope WFH causes blood clots?

Because it's much easier to fix if that's what's causing it by getting more exercise.

CapitalOne · 12 Sep 2022 at 11:08

delta0 said:
I’ve seen some articles show issues with the heart caused by sedentary lifestyle. WFH is not the direct cause because people will still exercise but for many people their only exercise was the commute. I know it is a controversial thing hence understanding the impact of this needs to be done as there are indicators that since lockdowns people are exercising less so we need to be open minded to the possibility. We’ve also had a few people at work have problems and every single one of them were WFH people.

Sure (that's hardly a breaking medical discovery though is it

) , but why do you hope it's the case? Do you mean as opposed to it being caused by Covid infection?

Freefaller · 12 Sep 2022 at 11:27

CapitalOne said:
Sure (that's hardly a breaking medical discovery though is it ) , but why do you hope it's the case? Do you mean as opposed to it being caused by Covid infection?

That's how I interpreted it. People are more idle than they have ever been unfortunately.

delta0 · 12 Sep 2022 at 11:41

CapitalOne said:
Sure (that's hardly a breaking medical discovery though is it ) , but why do you hope it's the case? Do you mean as opposed to it being caused by Covid infection?

Hope? If people are sedentary that is connected to clots. We’ve known that for a long time. If people are not exercising enough then that can lead to clots because they are sedentary. If your only form of exercise is walking to your desk in your home office then that is sedentary. It is known that since lockdowns peoples’ activities levels are less and this has persisted despite lockdowns ending.

No I do not mean it as opposed to covid infection. There could be 2 contributors.

Chris Wilson · 12 Sep 2022 at 11:49

I wonder how long it will be before some factions demand information from our late Queen's embalmer if they found blood clots? It won't help with the undertakers (who may or may not also be the embalmers) having been allowed to use a hearse advertising their company name!

I see some are already claiming "long Covid" was the cause of her death...Are death certificates of senior members of the Royal Family made public?

Freefaller · 12 Sep 2022 at 11:59

Well seeing as she got it - and her age it's probably related. Whether it's long covid or not I'm sure it probably contributed to her getting ill. However, of course she could have just died because she was old.

Tephnos · 12 Sep 2022 at 12:01

Chris Wilson said:
I wonder how long it will be before some factions demand information from our late Queen's embalmer if they found blood clots? It won't help with the undertakers (who may or may not also be the embalmers) having been allowed to use a hearse advertising their company name!

I see some are already claiming "long Covid" was the cause of her death...Are death certificates of senior members of the Royal Family made public?

Honestly, long covid could be a contributing factor if it was heart related issues.

Werewolf · 12 Sep 2022 at 18:08

delta0 said:
I hope they determine increases caused by covid and caused by an increased sedentary lifestyle people have had since the pandemic lockdowns and WFH.

If it was sedentary lifestyles it wouldn't suddenly be seeing a 3-6 fold increase just as a new disease that is known to affect the blood and cause micro clotting is around.

And "increased sedentary", probably not by that much given you could still go shopping, go out for exercise, do stuff in your gardens, not to mention that "increased sedentary" lifestyles don't I suspect result in odd blood clots, as blood clots, certainly not massive increases in the numbers with them within a year or so. IIRC blood clotting tends to be either down to chemical imbalances in the blood, infections, or organ issues, and of those one has certainly been an issue in the last 2 years with covid, and one tends to take longer to develop (certainly in very large numbers).
I think you're clutching at straws a bit, especially as "work from home" has allowed an awful lot of people who used to have to spend hours sitting in transport barely moving, then hours sat at a desk barely moving, to do stuff other than sit in their chosen form of transport, and to move around a lot more whilst in working hours.

Freefaller · 12 Sep 2022 at 21:07

@Werewolf just to play devil's advocate - whilst I don't disagree with you totally. Commuters will necessarily be more active. Also possibly have access to a gym or sports at lunchtimes. Often I go for walks with colleagues at lunchtime. Many cycle as well. I think it's fair to make the assumption that more people were a bit more active when commuting and in an office environment. At least I can concur to that from my experience. That said the counter to that is that people would go for a drink after work and possibly undo all that benefit! To counter the counter socialising is also probably very important as well certainly from a mental health perspective.

Tony Edwards · 12 Sep 2022 at 23:06

Its an antivaccine article on further reading.

Rroff · 13 Sep 2022 at 02:09

Tony Edwards said:
Its an antivaccine article on further reading.

I wouldn't put too much stock in the article itself - but there has definitely been a widespread up tick of this kind of stuff. The most likely culprit being COVID itself.