COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

Dunno if it is this new variant going around and/or related to having some degree of existing immunity but several people got COVID around here at the start of the week where the symptoms are a gripping headache for the first 1-2 days, apparently it is really really horrid, followed by 2-3 days of general muscle aches and fatigue without some of the other symptoms like sore throat or coughing, etc. by the end of the week feeling OK except just generally rough/fatigued.

My boss though had the full works though he was only really bad for 1-2 days apparently and the sore throat, etc. cleared up quickly.
 
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The main issue people still are not getting that I speak to is it's cumulative effects on your long term health and viral persistence within the body. To be fair they are also the same numpties spouting its just a cold bro as friends and family drop dead of strokes and heart attacks in 20s and 30s
 
I haven't got the link to hand, but there was some article in the BMJ apparently suggesting/saying that around 4% of the healthcare workforce in the UK have long covid to some degree or another.

I'm still trying as hard as possible to avoid it, in part because I look after my father, and in part because I know exactly how badly "just the flu" can knock me out.
 
It irks me a bit when some people say it's just a flu, or a cold even. Yes it might be mild for some, but for others it definitely isn't. Afaik it has a higher mortality rate than flu and some have complications such as long covid (i've never heard of long flu). When i had it there was a 24-48 hour period where i was absolutely floored. I ate nothing, drank very little, could barely stand and only did so to pee. I've never had a flu do that to me.

On another note, how long does the immunity to it last after having it? I'm eligible for a booster but had covid mid August, i want to time the booster right so i have maximum protection.
 
Werewolf said:
I haven't got the link to hand, but there was some article in the BMJ apparently suggesting/saying that around 4% of the healthcare workforce in the UK have long covid to some degree or another.

I'm still trying as hard as possible to avoid it, in part because I look after my father, and in part because I know exactly how badly "just the flu" can knock me out.
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Don't know if this is the one you meant https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/996030?ecd=a2a
The full article is behind a paywall. I was one of the respondents to the survey - I'm one of the "lucky" one that managed to return to work. However, in this survey the majority of those who did manage to resume work could only do so for 1-2 days/week. Long Covid is absolutely not something you want to catch.
 
tyke_ said:
It irks me a bit when some people say it's just a flu, or a cold even. Yes it might be mild for some, but for others it definitely isn't. Afaik it has a higher mortality rate than flu and some have complications such as long covid (i've never heard of long flu). When i had it there was a 24-48 hour period where i was absolutely floored. I ate nothing, drank very little, could barely stand and only did so to pee. I've never had a flu do that to me.

On another note, how long does the immunity to it last after having it? I'm eligible for a booster but had covid mid August, i want to time the booster right so i have maximum protection.
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There isn't really one answer to that - generally immunity holds up at least 3 months before it starts to wane but it could be 6-9 months and a small number of people have had it again within weeks.
 
tyke_ said:
It irks me a bit when some people say it's just a flu, or a cold even. Yes it might be mild for some, but for others it definitely isn't. Afaik it has a higher mortality rate than flu and some have complications such as long covid (i've never heard of long flu). When i had it there was a 24-48 hour period where i was absolutely floored. I ate nothing, drank very little, could barely stand and only did so to pee. I've never had a flu do that to me.

On another note, how long does the immunity to it last after having it? I'm eligible for a booster but had covid mid August, i want to time the booster right so i have maximum protection.
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Aye, IIRC it's mortality rate is even now after several years higher than the flu, and AFAIK the flu (at least strains we've seen in the last 90+ years) doesn't seem to do anything like the organ damage that Covid does.

Having said that "long covid" possibly isn't as unique as it seems, it's just that a lot of people have got it at once.
From memory M.E./CFS are both thought (at least in some theories) to be triggered by "major" but fairly common viral infections in people who may have some underlying susceptibility, and a lot of the symptoms seem to be similar to long covid if not from the same root cause (we are starting to learn that covid does do damage to organs), but because you never got a lot of cases at the same time/the lag for diagnosis was months/years after any possible cause.


xaldub said:
Don't know if this is the one you meant https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/996030?ecd=a2a
The full article is behind a paywall. I was one of the respondents to the survey - I'm one of the "lucky" one that managed to return to work. However, in this survey the majority of those who did manage to resume work could only do so for 1-2 days/week. Long Covid is absolutely not something you want to catch.
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I would say I wouldn't wish long covid or anything similar on my worst enemies, and then gave it some thought and wondered what it would take to get some of those who don't believe it exists to start believing, and what it would take to get funding for it and similar conditions.
I'm glad you've managed to return to work and hope you continue to recover well, if you're not yet fully recovered.
 
Werewolf said:
I would say I wouldn't wish long covid or anything similar on my worst enemies, and then gave it some thought and wondered what it would take to get some of those who don't believe it exists to start believing, and what it would take to get funding for it and similar conditions.
I'm glad you've managed to return to work and hope you continue to recover well, if you're not yet fully recovered.
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To be honest, given the many millions already affected, with the prospect of 5-10% more of each subsequent wave joining the "ranks", if that's not a wake-up call then what is ? Humankind never learns.

ps. Thanks for the well wishes. I'm now at the 3.5 year mark and my recovery has plateaued at ~85% my pre-illness state. I don't have much hope for improvement beyond that.
 
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Tested positive last Monday, worst day was Thursday and I slept like a log on Thursday, Friday & Saturday.
Went out with my band on Saturday feeling crap but since then I'm myself again.
This is the third time I've had it but I get basically nothing, slight runny nose, sneeze once an hour, very mild sore throat, no cough but I feel like crap.
This time my taste buds disappeared but back now.
 
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Wuhan Institute of Virology broke rules with experiments that increased viral activity more than tenfold, says health department
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"Chinese laboratory suspected of leaking coronavirus has been stripped of US..funding..[for] conducting dangerous experiments that increased..potency of coronaviruses before pandemic..HHS said..experiments had increased viral activity more than 10-fold"
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Tested positive last Monday, worst day was Thursday and I slept like a log on Thursday, Friday & Saturday.
Went out with my band on Saturday feeling crap but since then I'm myself again.
This is the third time I've had it but I get basically nothing, slight runny nose, sneeze once an hour, very mild sore throat, no cough but I feel like crap.
This time my taste buds disappeared but back now.
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You tested positive for Covid on the Monday but went out on the Saturday regardless while you were still feeling like crap?
 
I have not stopped coughing for two weeks now. Got it Tuesday so it’s basically been two weeks. Over the rest of it but coughing still and still get blocked sinuses. It’s getting on my nerves.
 
Strange how varied the effects are on people. I got it a 2nd time along with my 94 year old nan at hospital and it was a very mild flu for both of us. Been less than a week since we tested positive and we're fine already. The first time it was a whole 2 week ordeal. I guess I can be thankful for all the boosters along the way.
 
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I can't remember exactly now but while I didn't get the cough that badly, only really when I was trying to sleep which was annoying, it took a good bit more than 2 weeks before that cleared up - felt like there was something slightly irritating between my shoulder blades, I'm assuming at the top of the lower respiratory tract, for a probably 3-4 weeks after COVID.

jklc said:
Strange how varied the effects are on people. I got it a 2nd time along with my 94 year old nan at hospital and it was a very mild flu for both of us. Been less than a week since we tested positive and we're fine already. The first time it was a whole 2 week ordeal. I guess I can be thankful for all the boosters along the way.
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Some of the variants are a bit different as well - the original S variant I think it was that was present along with the L variant around Wuhan was on average making people sick for 3 weeks but fortunately that variant seems to have gone extinct by the end of 2020.
 
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