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I've been bed ridden since Friday thanks to the office jockey coming into work for a week like a zombie, but it's okay, he can sit on his arse at a desk with his heating and the gaffer is happy he's in... although doing very very little.

Anyway, I've got now got constant dizziness, tiredness, tight chest, sore throat, you name it thanks to him, assuming it's COVID as it's more than a cold yet not quite a full of flu.

I shall be taking a few days of work as well no doubt, then I'll have my wife and child to worry about incase they catch it.


Hate the ' turn up for work, don't be a weakling attitude ' of bosses.
 
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I've been bed ridden since Friday thanks to the office jockey coming into work for a week like a zombie, but it's okay, he can sit on his arse at a desk with his heating and the gaffer is happy he's in... although doing very very little.

Anyway, I've got now got constant dizziness, tiredness, tight chest, sore throat, you name it thanks to him, assuming it's COVID as it's more than a cold yet not quite a full of flu.

I shall be taking a few days of work as well no doubt, then I'll have my wife and child to worry about incase they catch it.


Hate the ' turn up for work, don't be a weakling attitude ' of bosses.

I hate that whole attitude around sickness and the way some people will do absolutely nothing to avoid spreading colds, etc. to anyone else. 9 out of 10 times we've had stuff go around at work IMO it has been totally avoidable.

Small number of people have had/got COVID over the last week at work, fortunately so far doesn't seem to be spreading much outside of those who are close socially and those who've had it aren't that ill - mostly just a minor sore throat and a bit of a cough.
 
I hate that whole attitude around sickness and the way some people will do absolutely nothing to avoid spreading colds, etc. to anyone else. 9 out of 10 times we've had stuff go around at work IMO it has been totally avoidable.

Small number of people have had/got COVID over the last week at work, fortunately so far doesn't seem to be spreading much outside of those who are close socially and those who've had it aren't that ill - mostly just a minor sore throat and a bit of a cough.

Back in the 90s/early 2000s asking for a sick day felt like you were basically skiving off work. It's such a strange attitude.
 
Mid 90s remember one of my work colleagues coming into work with flu because he was too busy.
The boss was praising him up for his commitment.

A week later just about the whole office had flu (it was iirc 12 people), including the boss, and most of us went meh I am ill I am staying home.
IIRC there was 3 people total in that week in the end, and the following week wasn't much better with the last 2 who had come down with it as well.

It wasn't a healthy building and you could just about guarantee anything someone brought into the office would do the rounds of just abut everyone.

Must admit I get almost zero colds now I don't go to the supermarket.
COVID confirmed my suspicion they are germ spreading superstores ;)
 
A controversial report for some people, looking at the negative impacts the vaccine had on some people.

This report as been done by the top researchers in long covid to see why the vaccine for some people exhibited post covid-like symptoms.


This is actually the diamond in the rough that the vaccine reacted that way. It is allowing researchers to see a reaction in real time and compare it to how covid itself turns into long covid for some people.

This will be great for isolating biomarkers, which opens up big pharma to create medications. Finding a biomarker will be the game changer.
 
A controversial report for some people, looking at the negative impacts the vaccine had on some people.

This report as been done by the top researchers in long covid to see why the vaccine for some people exhibited post covid-like symptoms.


This is actually the diamond in the rough that the vaccine reacted that way. It is allowing researchers to see a reaction in real time and compare it to how covid itself turns into long covid for some people.

This will be great for isolating biomarkers, which opens up big pharma to create medications. Finding a biomarker will be the game changer.

When the researchers measured levels of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein — the part of the virus that enables it to penetrate and infect host cells and what COVID-19 vaccines use to trigger immune responses against the virus — they found that some individuals with PVS, even those without evidence for infection, had higher levels of spike protein than controls. Typically spike protein can be detected for a few days after vaccination, but some participants with PVS had detectable levels more than 700 days after their last vaccination. Persistent spike protein has been associated with long COVID as well.

Interesting and rather damning if true? Isnt this what the conspiracy nuts were claiming?
 
Must admit I get almost zero colds now I don't go to the supermarket.
COVID confirmed my suspicion they are germ spreading superstores ;)

Aside from the first time I had COVID I've not had anything like a proper cold since 2019 - when stuff has gone around I've either had no symptoms or had it very mildly compared to most.

Where I work IMO pretty much proved over the pandemic that it is possible to massively reduce the spread of stuff like that around a workplace and with full measures pretty much halt it - probably without even having to go to the full works of masks, etc. even just a little bit of consideration and a reasonable amount of wiping down common touch points, etc. seems to massively impact how easily stuff goes around. But still no one wants to go to the bother...
 
That isn't true and you know it. Maybe you are coming round to the idea that astrazeneca didn't do you no favours.
What I don't understand is the people looking into the vaccines never look deeply into the virus.

You seem perfectly happy with being repeatedly infected by a virus of dubious origins.

There are people I know seriously ill having had covid who didn't have any vaccine.

Look into the research. It's not "big pharma".
 
No, they were against all vaccines, especially mrna.
What I don't understand is the people looking into the vaccines never look deeply into the virus.

You seem perfectly happy with being repeatedly infected by a virus of dubious origins.

There are people I know seriously ill having had covid who didn't have any vaccine.

Look into the research. It's not "big pharma".

Actually big pharma has proved itself to be disreputable many times and a blind adherence to them is a joke. I've got friends that work at Novartis and Roche that I like dearly but it doesn't change the fact that they are driven 100% by money, not altruistic dreams.

And I totally agree people should be wary of the virus, but let's not forget that people bleated in line with the government when they said it wasn't a lab leak. It's a little bit hard now to get people to give a **** even as the narrative changed.

For me the biggest impact of covid isn't the virus, isn't even the vaccines themselves it was the sheer amount of control that people gave their respective governments. A lot of amnesia is now applied to just how much overreach there was. The damage from this is immeasurable and I think it will be seen as a watershed mark in the future.
 
Aside from the first time I had COVID I've not had anything like a proper cold since 2019

Same here.
I used to have a regular 3-4 colds a year but nothing since Covid started which is very strange.
Could it be the vaxx has had some type of effect on that?
Has there been any research on this phenomena because I know I'm not the only one?
 
Actually big pharma has proved itself to be disreputable many times and a blind adherence to them is a joke. I've got friends that work at Novartis and Roche that I like dearly but it doesn't change the fact that they are driven 100% by money, not altruistic dreams.

And I totally agree people should be wary of the virus, but let's not forget that people bleated in line with the government when they said it wasn't a lab leak. It's a little bit hard now to get people to give a **** even as the narrative changed.

For me the biggest impact of covid isn't the virus, isn't even the vaccines themselves it was the sheer amount of control that people gave their respective governments. A lot of amnesia is now applied to just how much overreach there was. The damage from this is immeasurable and I think it will be seen as a watershed mark in the future.
I agree with most of your post.

I think the situation was abused by the government with a mixture of ignorance and seeing how far they could push the law.

The contradictions of lockdown undermined the message and I agree this is likely the biggest factor in why many people have tuned out.

Making it illegal to be outside unless people had a valid reason. Not being able to associate with people outside of your house, while at the same time having no issue with everyone at the supermarket, or the encouragement to go to a food establishment and take your mask off!?

The government acted with complete buffoonery. They didn't want to close direct flights from hotpot places around the world, and when they eventually did they still allowed indirect connecting flights.

It was either incompetence or they deliberately wanted the virus to spread.

I suspect they didn't expect long covid, lasting symptoms, to be an issue that will become an economic burden. But they should have SARS1 had long covid symptoms too.

But even with all the government stupidity, covid is a damaging virus to your body, organs, and especially your immune system.

Covid hides inside the ACE2 histamine receptors. This is why suddenly colds, flu's, pneumonias are all becoming worse for people.

We never know which covid infection is going to take us down. It was the third one for me. First time I had covid it lasted 5 days then I returned to relative normality. Second time it took 2 months, which affected my breathing. Third time give me breathing and oxygen problems. So far 2+ years I've not returned to normal. I've picked up a high heart rate along the way.

Avoid it at all costs. Unless you are in a minority and have a genetic setup that allows you to fully repel covid with no symptoms, the majority ie susceptible. Each infection is another punch to your immune system.
 
For me the biggest impact of covid isn't the virus, isn't even the vaccines themselves it was the sheer amount of control that people gave their respective governments. A lot of amnesia is now applied to just how much overreach there was. The damage from this is immeasurable and I think it will be seen as a watershed mark in the future.

Nah it wasn't and nah it won't, that's just the usual hysterical hyperbole from our Libertarian leaning bretheren.

The policies implemented have been used before and oh look, pandemic over and liberties restored, just as before. The same as when restrictions are put on civilian populations in time of war, after the war ends, the restrictions are lifted.

Anyway, you need to get with the program, it seems a large contingent of populations are turning away from liberal freedoms and embracing autocratic rule - funnily enough, with a lot of them being the same types who complained about "muh freedumbs" when it came to wearing a mask.
 
Nah it wasn't and nah it won't, that's just the usual hysterical hyperbole from our Libertarian leaning bretheren.

The policies implemented have been used before and oh look, pandemic over and liberties restored, just as before. The same as when restrictions are put on civilian populations in time of war, after the war ends, the restrictions are lifted.

Anyway, you need to get with the program, it seems a large contingent of populations are turning away from liberal freedoms and embracing autocratic rule - funnily enough, with a lot of them being the same types who complained about "muh freedumbs" when it came to wearing a mask.

I agree there is none more autocratic than Starmer and Reeves it turns out.
 
Same here.
I used to have a regular 3-4 colds a year but nothing since Covid started which is very strange.
Could it be the vaxx has had some type of effect on that?
Has there been any research on this phenomena because I know I'm not the only one?
Coincidence probably I've have two infections this winter one was almost certainly covid the other similar but not the same. Also had a flu jab just waiting for Norovirus now seems to be the only thing I havn't had lately
 
Or....it could be something else...
I thought you were someone who questioned the narrative and the media? Now suddenly because you see a headline that fits your narrative suddenly you believe it?

What I'm about to say now was exactly the same comment a medical Professor said to a doctor when he mentioned anxiety as the cause 2 years ago...

How is anxiety dropping my oxygen levels to the 70% just by changing positions in bed?

The Professor told the doctor to go back to medical school.

The Sky News post was removed when medical professionals started complaining about it.
 
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