COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

I know someone who has had COVID 4 times. They are up to date with jabs as well. Can you get the same strain only once and each 4 times was a different kind?

No, immunity to Covid isn't lasting so you can get the same strain more than once. However, the common strains circulating have been changing over time so - probably - yeah, they got 4 different variants. Not that any of the variants are particularly different to one another.
 
I know someone who has had COVID 4 times. They are up to date with jabs as well. Can you get the same strain only once and each 4 times was a different kind?

Yes easily - but it seems to be having less and less of an impact, at least anecdotally now. You don't even need to stay at home legally any more.
 
I got a jab yesterday having had to ring up to find out if i was eligible and it turned out I was under two criteria*, and the pharmacist doing them was saying it's actually easier to get covid jabs this year than flu jabs.



*The messaging on the jabs this year has been rubbish, I checked 6 weeks ago when i booked my dad's and I wasn't.

I can understand why you'd want to - I'm not having any more, and sort of regret having them in the first place, but it's done now and I wanted to travel!
 
Picked up my third COVID booster today. I've now had 10 vaccines in 3 years. Still not dead yet!

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The MMR didn't turn me autistic, either. Sad! Many such cases.

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I guess it depends what people mean by "likely". You're not likely to die of Covid, but it was still the sixth highest cause of death in the UK in 2022. Which is probably about where it will remain in the coming years.

At my age, the most likely cause of death is "accidental poisoning", followed by "Cirrhosis and other diseases of liver" which I guess you could describe as "intentional poisoning".
 
We are still getting COVID RIPs at the hospital, ask @Malevolence who takes them to the mortuary.
The constant scaremongering is tiresome, it really is. I don't dispute that people are still dying, but how about some more specifics just every once in a while. Can you honestly still say that covid is a serious health concern for the young and healthy?
 
Here we go again.... mystery 'pneumonia' virus ripping through Beijing and hospitalizing people....

Later reports on this are showing no new infectious disease as the cause, and the consensus seems to be that the likely cause is basically a hangover from lockdown with the population having a lower resistance to normal respiratory infections due to lack of exposure.
 
Later reports on this are showing no new infectious disease as the cause, and the consensus seems to be that the likely cause is basically a hangover from lockdown with the population having a lower resistance to normal respiratory infections due to lack of exposure.


Question being do we believe the Chinese.
 
Tell that to the 232,000 Brits who died of Covid19.

They died because they had complications owing to covid - though we will never know as a lot of the causes of death were attributed erroneously to covid. Again, I'm not saying covid didn't have a direct impact on people's mortality - certainly for the infirm and vulnerable and co-morbidities, but making a general statement like that isn't wholly accurate any more.
 
You hand on heart believe 232,000 died of just covid and no other contributing factors?



Not that many according to the ONS which is what people seem to trust.

Again though, it clearly has caused issues to people - and 1 death is tragic. However, yearly/monthly mortality now is back to "normal" and has been for a while.
 
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People who died of Covid with co-morbidities still died of Covid. Thinking otherwise is a particular special kind of callous cluelessness.

We don't know if they were going to die anyway or it accelerated it.

Either way it's tragic. I'm not suggesting it's "okay" that we had an uplift in deaths. It's awful. And the lockdowns and lack of autonomy for people to spend time with dying relatives is also beyond callous in my opinion.

However the fear of COVID now is unjustified now we know more about it.

Unfortunately there were no winners because of this. We all lost. Whether it was friends and family, time, mental health, jobs, marriages, friendships, homes etc.... it really did a number on everyone. There's more to covid than a disease. That's the bigger problem from my perspective. I'm not expecting everyone or anyone to agree, but I see the world slightly differently.
 
The constant scaremongering is tiresome, it really is. I don't dispute that people are still dying, but how about some more specifics just every once in a while. Can you honestly still say that covid is a serious health concern for the young and healthy?
I used to do a physical job (postie) and do ~10 hours of cycle training outside work, regularly doing 2+ hour rides with all-out efforts on hills. In '22 I was beating a lot of my personal best times on Strava segments for fun and even getting a few top 10s, until catching covid in late September.

After almost a year sick off work with long covid which is still ongoing, I took ill health retirement.

Carrying a ~10Kg bucket of water for my fish tanks is a massive struggle to do with one arm these days, often needing both, I used to be able to carry a 25l gerry can of water in each hand and be fine afterwards. Carrying 3-5 trays of food shopping upstairs from van delivery is a huge workout. A ~40 minute indoor cycle at light-moderate effort is exhausting, to manage 60-90mins cycling I have to keep my effort very light and even then it can leave me fatigued for days. A 20 minute walk is now so slow and such an effort. Thankfully my breathing is so much better than it was until around spring this year, now it's mainly physcial and mental fatigue.

My muscles and joints often ache, mentally I rarely have a day when I don't feel shattered and full of brain fog, while my tinnitus is now a constant scream in my ears when it used to come and go.

Life is so different for me now than it was ~18 months ago and I live in hope that things will improve in 2024, enabling me to find a new job and start making meaningful fitness gains.
 
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I used to do a physical job (postie) and do ~10 hours of cycle training outside work, regularly doing 2+ hour rides with all-out efforts on hills. In '22 I was beating a lot of my personal best times on Strava segments for fun and even getting a few top 10s, until catching covid in late September.

After almost a year sick off work with long covid which is still ongoing, I took ill health retirement.

Carrying a ~10Kg bucket of water for my fish tanks is a massive struggle to do with one arm these days, often needing both, I used to be able to carry a 25l gerry can of water in each hand and be fine afterwards. Carrying 3-5 trays of food shopping upstairs from van delivery is a huge workout. A ~40 minute indoor cycle at light-moderate effort is exhausting, to manage 60-90mins cycling I have to keep my effort very light and even then it can leave me fatigued for days. A 20 minute walk is now so slow and such an effort. Thankfully my breathing is so much better than it was until around spring this year, now it's mainly physcial and mental fatigue.

My muscles and joints often ache, mentally I rarely have a day when I don't feel shattered and full of brain fog, while my tinnitus is now a constant scream in my ears when it used to come and go.

Life is so different for me now than it was ~18 months ago and I live in hope that things will improve in 2023, enabling me to find a new job and start making meaningful fitness gains.
This is a thing, I'm not overly concerned about covid killing me, I'd just rather not gamble altering the remainder of my life in such random and potentially horrible way.
 
No, immunity to Covid isn't lasting so you can get the same strain more than once. However, the common strains circulating have been changing over time so - probably - yeah, they got 4 different variants. Not that any of the variants are particularly different to one another.

Source? AFAIK we don't actually have any data suggesting what you have said at a population level (that immunity to a single strain is not long lasting).
 
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