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the same variant of these colds spreads all round the world, you are NOT going to avoid it unless isolate yourself, id probably not go to work if i was coughing or sneezing a lot but thats because i fell other people might get frustrated
If people did stay at home it would actually make us more productive because multiple people wouldn't come down with it. Even a cold can affect your ability to concentrate and get things done.

However, employers seemingly can't see further than the end of their nose.
 
If people did stay at home it would actually make us more productive because multiple people wouldn't come down with it. Even a cold can affect your ability to concentrate and get things done.

However, employers seemingly can't see further than the end of their nose.
True, but some people will just go in regardless of what they should do.
Just as an example, talking to a woman across the street while walking the dog and she said "I have a cold so I'll have to dose myself up" now I don't know is she was going into work or not. Simply put as you say stay at home less chance of spreading it, go to work and infect a number of people. Years ago this was seen as a problem but since covid it has highlighted how quickly something can spread
 
Have a question for you all.

How many are suffering from "long covid"??

And out of those people, tell me if you are vaxxed, or unvaxxed?
 
i thought the stats were showing that mrna vaccines are not good, we have excess deaths everywhere except the poor barely vaxxed countries.. we have all had covid (several times) so whats the utility in a vaccine for a 2 year old now changed virus?.. if I'd known the real potential side effects and real death rates (covid deaths excluding over 70's) id never have take it....

There are government advisers (doctors) coming out and saying this is madness (keep vaxing poeple)

do you follow dr john on YT? he was a strict wear a mask and take a vaccine until the excess death data started to come out.. i checked some of the figures he gave and he is not making it up...

The new white blood clots reported by embalmers (hopefully limited to a small number of people ) are concerning

Where do you get your data so i can take a look? (maybe im totally misinformed)

anecdotal i know but a 45yo guy in our team of 5 collapsed after his vaccine (his doctor confirms it was from the vaccine / Myocarditis)

Well it's a good thing that the largest observational study done on covid vaccines recently came out. They looked at 99 million vaccinations.

Adverse effects were higher than expected in a strictly clinical sense (69 cases of myocarditis out of an expected 21 for example. Essentially nothing).

The study confirmed beyond a doubt the vaccines are safe and well tolerated in the general population. It also had some limitations in that it looked at pre-covid data for its baseline figures, meaning it did not take into account the fact that many of these adverse outcomes have risen since covid due to covid itself, such as GBS. So this study was basically a case of the 'absolute worst' numbers, and they're still pretty good.
 
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I'm not sure if it's been posted yet, but apparently a German has been charged because he was taking the covid vaccine in the name of people who didn't want to.
Apparently they are fairly sure he had over 200 doses, but could only convict him on over 100 counts.

No issues medically for him.

Meanwhilte general antivaxxers are apparently causing the makers of low/no profit, very long proven "traditional" vaccines to stop making them for things that routinely kill children because the cost of just defending against litigation from the idiots is basically starting to cost more than the profit they make.
 
I'm not sure if it's been posted yet, but apparently a German has been charged because he was taking the covid vaccine in the name of people who didn't want to.
Apparently they are fairly sure he had over 200 doses, but could only convict him on over 100 counts.

No issues medically for him.

Meanwhilte general antivaxxers are apparently causing the makers of low/no profit, very long proven "traditional" vaccines to stop making them for things that routinely kill children because the cost of just defending against litigation from the idiots is basically starting to cost more than the profit they make.

AFAIK they decided not to place any charges on him. He had 217 vaccinations, over 130 confirmed medically.

He has very elevated antibody levels (confirming that doses after 3 still boost levels) and has never had covid, zero evidence of that in his bloodwork. Also, it has not impacted his immunity to other diseases whatsoever. So any immune fatigue crap is bunk as well.

He is the gigavax.
 
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AFAIK they decided not to place any charges on him. He had 217 vaccinations, over 130 confirmed medically.

He has very elevated antibody levels (confirming that doses after 3 still boost levels) and has never had covid, zero evidence of that in his bloodwork. Also, it has not impacted his immunity to other diseases whatsoever. So any immune fatigue crap is bunk as well.

He is the gigavax.
They will need to treat him as the new vaccine supply
 
the same variant of these colds spreads all round the world, you are NOT going to avoid it unless isolate yourself, id probably not go to work if i was coughing or sneezing a lot but thats because i fell other people might get frustrated
...whut?
 
Have a question for you all.

How many are suffering from "long covid"??

And out of those people, tell me if you are vaxxed, or unvaxxed?

If you look at the facts, before vaccines were available 100% were unvaccinated. After approx June 2021 with something like 90% of the population vaccinated, I’d take a guess at a maximum of 10% unvaccinated.

Good idea for a survey though, although I’d leave the research to the professional medics and statisticians.
 

to which part,

the same variant of these colds spreads all round the world (covid came from china and infects the world its not contested that a virus can easily infect the world)

you are NOT going to avoid it unless isolate yourself (if it can spread round the world how are you going to avoid it without extreme measures)

id probably not go to work if i was coughing or sneezing a lot but thats because i fell other people might get frustrated (this is just common courtesy or am i missing something typo on "I feel*)
 
Well it's a good thing that the largest observational study done on covid vaccines recently came out. They looked at 99 million vaccinations.

Adverse effects were higher than expected in a strictly clinical sense (69 cases of myocarditis out of an expected 21 for example. Essentially nothing).

The study confirmed beyond a doubt the vaccines are safe and well tolerated in the general population. It also had some limitations in that it looked at pre-covid data for its baseline figures, meaning it did not take into account the fact that many of these adverse outcomes have risen since covid due to covid itself, such as GBS. So this study was basically a case of the 'absolute worst' numbers, and they're still pretty good.

I assume thats 69 cases per million? since i work with 1 person who was confirmed by his doctor (after collapsing and going to hospital) he had covid vaccine related myocarditis.. and 1 other person who went to hospital and was off work with heart issues (thought i dont know if that was confirmed)

even at 69 per million im still lucky to sit next to 1 person who had it and down the office from another suspected case - there are about 60 people in our office
 
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to which part,

the same variant of these colds spreads all round the world (covid came from china and infects the world its not contested that a virus can easily infect the world)

you are NOT going to avoid it unless isolate yourself (if it can spread round the world how are you going to avoid it without extreme measures)

id probably not go to work if i was coughing or sneezing a lot but thats because i fell other people might get frustrated (this is just common courtesy or am i missing something typo on "I feel*)
Who said anything about colds or COVID not being able to spread worldwide?

What we are talking about is people not going to work when they know they are sick and contagious.
 
I assume thats 69 cases per million? since i work with 1 person who was confirmed by his doctor (after collapsing and going to hospital) he had covid vaccine related myocarditis.. and 1 other person who went to hospital and was off work with heart issues (thought i dont know if that was confirmed)

even at 69 per million im still lucky to sit next to 1 person who had it and down the office from another suspected case - there are about 60 people in our office

I may have misread that part, 69 out of 21 was for CVSTs with Astrazeneca, so 69 cases out of 12 million I think they were looking at there.
 
If you look at the facts, before vaccines were available 100% were unvaccinated. After approx June 2021 with something like 90% of the population vaccinated, I’d take a guess at a maximum of 10% unvaccinated.

Good idea for a survey though, although I’d leave the research to the professional medics and statisticians.
The problem is finding unbiased statistics. I'd hazard a guess that any big pharma company conducting this study would have a vested interest in showing the shots in a positive light.

Maybe one day we'll see it.
 
Who said anything about colds or COVID not being able to spread worldwide?

What we are talking about is people not going to work when they know they are sick and contagious.
People will go to work because they have too because of financial pressures, attitude of it's not my problem. I think covid has changed many people's perception of it though
 
Partner's elderly nan (approaching 100) has got covid again, apparently loads in the care home coming down with it, but apparently and thankfully an extremely mild variant.

I've had something relatively mild for at least the last 10 days brought home by partner, more all over muscle ache and knee ache that the usual long covid symptoms these days, a single LFT test was negative ~5 days ago which isn't the most effective way to test for covid (usually best to test for a few successive days ~3+ days after symptoms). More than anything really annoyed, because I felt like I was gaining some aerobic fitness and stamina on the turbo trainer bike during last month, but this last couple of weeks I've struggled to ride on successive days even at very easy effort. With a bit of luck we will get some dry 15C+ weather soon to start riding outdoors again for the first time since last October.
 
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