COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

BowdonUK said:
The people who struggle with covid seem to have a genetic disposition to not producing enough of a certain type of antibodies.

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I suspect this is why some people are getting vaccine induced long covid too.
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Could be quite possible
 
Covid hasn't been defeated until long covid is solved.

If you repeatedly get infected with covid you'll start getting long covid symptoms.


In 2019, Gareth Evans was balancing working full-time as an accountant while training for a triathlon. However, when the 42-year-old from Cwmbran caught Covid, his life changed beyond recognition, having to move in with his parents and learn to walk again.
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I've seen quite a few stories of previously fit people being severely restricted or bedbound. Most of the ones I've seen have never been seriously ill before. I think it's as much of a psychological shock as physically shocked.
 
BowdonUK said:
Covid hasn't been defeated until long covid is solved.

If you repeatedly get infected with covid you'll start getting long covid symptoms.




I've seen quite a few stories of previously fit people being severely restricted or bedbound. Most of the ones I've seen have never been seriously ill before. I think it's as much of a psychological shock as physically shocked.
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Yes agree, nephews partner was a plasterer/builder so not a slouch. He gets covid and ends up with a heart problem and some long covid symptoms. Luckily for him he has recovered far more than some


Also the son's partner had a persistent cough for months after getting covid, again they have improved
 
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tonys said:
Yes agree, nephews partner was a plasterer/builder so not a slouch. He gets covid and ends up with a heart problem and some long covid symptoms. Luckily for him he has recovered far more than some


Also the son's partner had a persistent cough for months after getting covid, again they have improved
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Should have got the vaccine and the boosters
 
I looked at the covid deaths earlier, for no particular reason.

Total for UK is 233,000. Latest weekly round up is below.


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I'm aware that private covid vaccines are becoming available, there's pharmacies listed online offering it however the nearest is 50 miles away, does anyone know when Boots are offering it?
 
Richdog said:
Apologies if I misinterpreted the context of your previous post. Anyway, the onus is not on the me to not go to work if someone else has a cold, the onus is on the person with the cold to not go to work and spread it to their colleagues. In my workplace people get very annoyed when someone comes to the office with a visible cold... it's been bad form for as long as I can remember (way before COVID).
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the same variant of these colds spreads all round the world, you are NOT going to avoid it unless isolate yourself, id probably not go to work if i was coughing or sneezing a lot but thats because i fell other people might get frustrated
 
Since the lockdowns it does seem people are getting sicker and picking up every little cold floating around, maybe the isolation of lockdowns and working from home since has knocked peoples immune response.
 
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BowdonUK said:
Being fit and healthy doesn't mean you're not going to get covid, and eventually long covid.

In the long covid groups most don't have pre existing conditions. They have never been seriously ill in their life.

The research is pointing to a genetic component that isn't producing enough of the right antibodies to remove the virus completely. The body struggles to produce it. So you might be ok the first few times you get covid. But eventually an accumulation effect occurs.

It's not a coincidence all these people dying suddenly.

You won't realise your oxygen is desaturating or your heart is racing until you get into serious problems.
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interesting i was reading the opposite, long covid was caused by your body continually producing an immune response to something you HAD but now no longer have, and possibly its a genetic "thing" and that could be triggered by many different infections (im not able to link the article but it was dr john on youtube interviewing someone that does research)
 
edscdk said:
interesting i was reading the opposite, long covid was caused by your body continually producing an immune response to something you HAD but now no longer have, and possibly its a genetic "thing" and that could be triggered by many different infections (im not able to link the article but it was dr john on youtube interviewing someone that does research)
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Yes, there is evidence that the immune system becomes so over worked it can't keep old viruses in check.

EBV (Epstein-Barr Virus) herpes 4 can become reactivated.
 
Feek said:
Totally off topic but oh my word, has it really been 17 years since you moved from the factory? It feels like about 5 years!
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Actually that's a mistake, it was around May 2008 I joined the NHS but yes seems like yesterday.
Just applied for Partial Retirement because I'm 66 in May and carrying on doing 13.5 hours to give me something to do.
After leaving Creda in 2007 I worked in a Juvenile Prison for around 6 months
 
Werewolf said:
the list of "contributing causes" on the death certificate will always state them in the order in which they affected the death.

For example my mum's stated Alzheimers as the primary (chronic/ongoing) and Pneumonia from memory.
It was the Pneumonia that actually killed her, but the Alzhiemers was what made her vulnerable to it.

You can also see the effect in the death stats, just looking at the number of deaths and the age groups shows a huge excess, and even after the initial "vulnerable" died that excess didn't go down for a while, and from memory we're still at least hitting the "normal" pre covid death levels which given we've lost a lot of people "early" means we're still having more die than we should.

And as I've said before, America, thanks to Trump and the other Republican death cult has shown quite bleakly how much of an effect Covid has on the population, as IIRC unvaccinated people are still dying of Covid at a much higher rate, and the cult of Trump has decided that vaccines are bad and covid is a lie, and for some reason their death rate is much higher than the democrats living in the same areas (D's are far more likely to have the vaccine/be taking at least some precuations).
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i thought the stats were showing that mrna vaccines are not good, we have excess deaths everywhere except the poor barely vaxxed countries.. we have all had covid (several times) so whats the utility in a vaccine for a 2 year old now changed virus?.. if I'd known the real potential side effects and real death rates (covid deaths excluding over 70's) id never have take it....

There are government advisers (doctors) coming out and saying this is madness (keep vaxing poeple)

do you follow dr john on YT? he was a strict wear a mask and take a vaccine until the excess death data started to come out.. i checked some of the figures he gave and he is not making it up...

The new white blood clots reported by embalmers (hopefully limited to a small number of people ) are concerning

Where do you get your data so i can take a look? (maybe im totally misinformed)

anecdotal i know but a 45yo guy in our team of 5 collapsed after his vaccine (his doctor confirms it was from the vaccine / Myocarditis)
 
edscdk said:
anecdotal i know but a 45yo guy in our team of 5 collapsed after his vaccine (his doctor confirms it was from the vaccine / Myocarditis)
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We've had staff at the hospital go down after a vaccine but the majority will tell you they are glad they had it especially working with Covid cases and some are still working with them, we have 71 at the moment.
I'll keep saying this, I work in a Trust Legal Team and we haven't had one staff member complaining about the vaccine even if it 100% made them ill.
Some people will react against vaccines, my colleague won't ever have a flu one again but accepts Covid.
 
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