COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

I had it recently. I am triple jabbed so maybe that helped. But it wasn't that bad. I felt rough for a few days. Cough, alternating blocked and then runny nose. Felt cold and shivery. Extremely tired and unable to concentrate. It was like flu that I have had in the past.

It was also identical to symptoms I had in Feb 2019 which I have always thought was COVID. I would say I was a little worse in 2019 compared to this time.

So it was unpleasant but not too bad. I'm in my mid 50s with a broken leg and hand so not in the best physical shape right now, although no significant health issues aside from those. Not overweight etc.
 
Feek said:
Are you happy to condemn the millions who are clinically vulnerable, have no immune system and will be seriously ill, and very likely die if they catch it?
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Are there really millions in this country without an immune system? I don't believe that the vulnerable are as likely to die from omicron as they were with previous variants.
 
Had a text today asking if I wanted a booster as I am over 75.
Booked in for tomorrow lunch time.

probably catch it now from some old geezer standing next to me with no mask and his grandkids have got it. :rolleyes:
 
woppy101 said:
Rossgreds seems like one of the many selfish ******* on here that only care about themselves
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I've had 2 years of disruptions to all areas of my life, from a virus that poses no threat to myself. I've never really complained about it and have made many changes to my lifestyle to help protect those around me. But I'm not apologising for wanting to get back to normal now, and I really do believe everybody is going to become infected with covid at some point, if they already haven't.

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I thought it might be him people were replying to!
He comes across as someone who doesn't care about anyone else and can't comprehend anybody with, or caring for a vulnerable person. Those are just an inconvenience to him it seems.
It's why he's on my ignore list because he wouldn't be someone I'd take notice of in real life either.
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My whole position from the beginning has been that people need to start living a healthier lifestyle. If people have put me on the ignore list because they don't like hearing that then it says more about them than me.
 
@RossGReds even with a mild case it can cause long term problems, there are reports that it can shrink parts of the brain - you cannot afford that! :)

seriously though, the vulnerable cannot just suddenly become healthy through diet/exercise, they have medical conditions which puts them at further risks of covid, plain and simple.

Simple things like masks indoors (except eating/drinking), Testing, WFH, indoor air quality and minimal things which really could lower the case rates are being ignored which in turn puts vulnerable at greater risk. They have been thrown to the wolves.

Living with covid doesn’t mean ignoring it. The near 2000 deaths over last 7 days shows its far, far from over. Flu as far as Im aware doesn’t kill 2000 a week in spring. Pretending cases are low when ONS/ZOE showing opposite helps no one.

It all boils down to politics and money now I’m afraid, maybe actions in a public health crisis shouldn’t even be decided by politicians, the current lot certainly cannot be trusted!

Even the simplest of things we do not implement correctly. Masks should be at least FFP2 and worn everywhere indoors unless eating/drinking. A simple rule. Instead we have vague “face covering” definition and have the same arguments over and over again about face masks not working despite overwhelming evidence that well fitted/high quality masks work.
We then put mask usage as a “personal responsibility” and it’s usage has dropped off a cliff. Let’s make everything a personal responsibility, I won’t speed (honest!) don’t need speed limit.
 
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651 deaths just gone on Worldometers for the UK today.
Though since the change in reporting, i.e. no longer on a daily basis over the weekend, numbers seem all over the place...
 
Day 3 of Covid part 2 for me. This variant feels like a moderate cold with slight fatigue. Only reason I tested was because my other half had it for the first time the previous week and was testing daily as per work guidelines ( NHS). I became positive when she became negative
This variant is definitely feels easier than when I first got it back in 2020(December) but seems so much easier to catch.
 
Vern1961 said:
651 deaths just gone on Worldometers for the UK today.
Though since the change in reporting, i.e. no longer on a daily basis over the weekend, numbers seem all over the place...
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Deaths have gone from under 150 a day just over a month ago (5th mar 127) to just under 250 a day now, but everything’s ok and everyone just needs to man up and get Covid now, well according to some muppets on here anyway.
 
RossGReds said:
My whole position from the beginning has been that people need to start living a healthier lifestyle. If people have put me on the ignore list because they don't like hearing that then it says more about them than me.
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I will pass that onto my immunocompromised wife, I’m sure she didn’t realise she was taking all those immunosuppressants for no reason, and she just needed to live a healthy lifestyle and she would be fine, I’m also sure that her consultant will be please to know the she will be cured by just living a healthy lifestyle(poor woman all that time wasted in med school and over 30 years at the top of her field)
Smokinggun is right you really are short of a couple million brain cells
 
woppy101 said:
I will pass that onto my immunocompromised wife, I’m sure she didn’t realise she was taking all those immunosuppressants for no reason, and she just needed to live a healthy lifestyle and she would be fine, I’m also sure that her consultant will be please to know the she will be cured by just living a healthy lifestyle(poor woman all that time wasted in med school and over 30 years at the top of her field)
Smokinggun is right you really are short of a couple million brain cells
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Angry man. You have an issue with me believing the population in general should be leading a healthier lifestyle?

What exactly is it that you want, a Chine style lockdown? Because if you tell me you want masks and social distancing then I'm telling you everyone is going to get covid at some point.
 
RossGReds said:
Angry man. You have an issue with me believing the population in general should be leading a healthier lifestyle?

What exactly is it that you want, a Chine style lockdown? Because if you tell me you want masks and social distancing then I'm telling you everyone is going to get covid at some point.
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Not at all, living a healthy lifestyle is a pretty good idea, the problem is you implied that if everyone just lived a healthy lifestyle Covid wouldn’t be a problem to anyone, you also said “I don't believe that the vulnerable are as likely to die from omicron as they were with previous variants” may I ask which medschool you went too, to make that assumption, as omicron is as likely to kill an immunocompromised/suppressed person as any other variant.
FYI there are about 750k immunocompromised/suppressed people in the UK

See above smokinggun’s post, that pretty much lays out some measures that would have a great effect on reducing transmission with little effect to the public.
 
woppy101 said:
Not at all, living a healthy lifestyle is a pretty good idea, the problem is you implied that if everyone just lived a healthy lifestyle Covid wouldn’t be a problem to anyone, you also said “I don't believe that the vulnerable are as likely to die from omicron as they were with previous variants” may I ask which medschool you went too, to make that assumption, as omicron is as likely to kill an immunocompromised/suppressed person as any other variant.
FYI there are about 750k immunocompromised/suppressed people in the UK

See above smokinggun’s post, that pretty much lays out some measures that would have a great effect on reducing transmission with little effect to the public.
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I've pointed out to the guy multiple times since Omicron that there is NO evidence Omicron is milder than the other variants (except Delta, which we knew from the start, and it was a horribly virulent variant), when not accounting for vaccines, which as we know don't work very well on immune compromised.

He doesn't want to listen to inconvenient things.
 
RossGReds said:
Angry man. You have an issue with me believing the population in general should be leading a healthier lifestyle?

What exactly is it that you want, a Chine style lockdown? Because if you tell me you want masks and social distancing then I'm telling you everyone is going to get covid at some point.
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Doesn't mean everyone has to get it at once or we can't slow down the pace of it - which helps to reduce the risk of ever needing more restrictive measures...

Over the last few weeks my local district hospital has seen a huge spike - even if only half of those who have COVID were admitted for COVID that still presents a significant management issue - fortunately this wave seems to be easing off now before they had to enact emergency measures but it came pretty close.

My local surgery has extreme levels of clinical staff sickness now due to COVID and it has hit a point where they now can't cope with new appointments and having to triage for acute emergency cases only going forward. So if you have something quite bad but not immediately life threatening you are out of luck...
 
Tephnos said:
I've pointed out to the guy multiple times since Omicron that there is NO evidence Omicron is milder than the other variants (except Delta, which we knew from the start, and it was a horribly virulent variant), when not accounting for vaccines, which as we know don't work very well on immune compromised.

He doesn't want to listen to inconvenient things.
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Back to smokinggun’s point about missing brain cells
 
Tephnos said:
I've pointed out to the guy multiple times since Omicron that there is NO evidence Omicron is milder than the other variants (except Delta, which we knew from the start, and it was a horribly virulent variant), when not accounting for vaccines, which as we know don't work very well on immune compromised.

He doesn't want to listen to inconvenient things.
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Personally I say it is a lot more complicated than that - you don't need a medical study to see the shift from lower to upper respiratory progression with Omicron variants and sore throats becoming much more common and the symptoms of lung inflammation and problematic blood oxygen levels far less common - which has huge implications, vaccinated or not, for the average healthy person and their chance of a case turning severe. However the impact in the vulnerable and elderly groups doesn't seem to have changed much - in fact, possibly due to being amongst the earliest vaccinated and now protection waning, some of the oldest groups are seeing a significant up-tick in severity as the disease becomes more prevalent in society. While death trends in the healthier groups have declined even in the groups with lower levels of vaccine coverage.
 
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