COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

SexyGreyFox · Sunday at 14:28

GGizmo said:
I'm surprised you being a medical person, and who had previously been supportive of vaccines and finding solutions for covid and long covid would come at me with such at attitude.

For the simple reason if we had Covid back in 2019 we would have seen back then the absolute carnage we were seeing around late Feb 2020.
I can't see how you can't see that.
Covid didn't arrive in households and stay dormant for 3 months until it decided "Right lets start killing and maiming people".
We would have also seen a massive rise in hospital deaths in late 2019 but we didn't.

Me a Covid denier, I still work with Covid cases, I am 100% positive the vaccine has saved my life so go and troll elsewhere.

Rroff · Sunday at 14:50

SexyGreyFox said:
For the simple reason if we had Covid back in 2019 we would have seen back then the absolute carnage we were seeing around late Feb 2020.
I can't see how you can't see that.
Covid didn't arrive in households and stay dormant for 3 months until it decided "Right lets start killing and maiming people".
We would have also seen a massive rise in hospital deaths in late 2019 but we didn't.

Me a Covid denier, I still work with Covid cases, I am 100% positive the vaccine has saved my life so go and troll elsewhere.

Maybe some exceptions aside even the most infectious diseases struggle to sustain infection chains in the early days, it is likely in the early days it was sporadically present before getting a grip and taking off.

Which is why it is worth more drastic measures up front to try and prevent it as there is a chance albeit with COVID it was in circulation enough in the early days that it likely would still have reared it's head sooner or later.

One of the reasons we don't see some of the really nasty stuff break out but if one does sustain enough infection chains we could be in trouble.

Tephnos · Sunday at 15:25

shifty_uk said:
Still not got my sense of smell back from the one and only time I had covid in 2020, I doubt it’ll ever return now. Small upside is that I’m not bothered by bad odours.

Have you ever tried smell training?

beachBOYken · 2024-12-23T18:06:29+0000

Not sure what I've come down with but last 2-3 days Ive been a bit wheezy, blowing my nose a lot, quite fatigued, a little achy, its quite mild but where its lasting so long I just don't feel myself.

maschio · 2024-12-23T18:37:31+0000

beachBOYken said:
Not sure what I've come down with but last 2-3 days Ive been a bit wheezy, blowing my nose a lot, quite fatigued, a little achy, its quite mild but where its lasting so long I just don't feel myself.

I'm not a Dr but your symptoms do seem to suggest you have the common cold. NHS reckons 1 - 2 weeks you should be back to normal.

Common cold

Find out about the common cold, including what the symptoms are, how it's spread, how it's treated, and how you can prevent it.

www.nhs.uk

beachBOYken · 2024-12-23T18:45:31+0000

maschio said:
I'm not a Dr but your symptoms do seem to suggest you have the common cold. NHS reckons 1 - 2 weeks you should be back to normal.

Common cold

Find out about the common cold, including what the symptoms are, how it's spread, how it's treated, and how you can prevent it.

www.nhs.uk

Doesn’t feel like a cold to me, though having asthma doesn’t help as I get so many chest infections in the Winter, in any case hopefully I feel better tomorrow.

Hagar · 2024-12-23T19:19:14+0000

The job of government which they did pretty well was not to trash the economy.

Unlike the present iteration.

xaldub · 2024-12-23T21:13:23+0000

SexyGreyFox said:
Total rubbish, we had our first two Covid patients in late Feb 2020 and then it took off exponentially.
If you had it December 2019 it would have taken off then in this country unless you were in Wuhan.

On December 29, 2019, a hospital in Wuhan admitted four individuals with pneumonia and recognized that all four had worked in the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, which sells live poultry, aquatic products, and several kinds of wild animals to the public.

Sorry, I'm going to have to intervene on this one. COVID-19 was beginning to circulate outwith China before 2020 ( the 19 part refers to 2019 by the way ). I personally treated individuals who had the virus in late November - clearly I can't divulge more details due to patient confidentiality. Other European countries recorded similar eg. the first COVID-19 death in France ( proven by autopsy ) was in early/mid December ; the deceased man hadn't travelled outwith the country which means, given the incubation period of the virus, that COVID was circulating in the populace by at least the end of November. It should also be noted that Taiwanese medical authorities alerted WHO of a novel SARS like coronavirus in October 2019. The Chinese government tried to suppress this information through political channels, but the information had already been shared with medical/academic institutions throughout the world. WHO wilted and didn't take any action - one of their many errors throughout the pandemic.

bigmike20vt · 2024-12-23T21:59:37+0000

Hagar said:
The job of government which they did pretty well was not to trash the economy.

Unlike the present iteration.

for me the jury is still out on this lot but my money is on them not being as bad as Liz the lettuce truss.

imo no one thing has ruined our economy but (and I hope I am wrong ) but imo no matter what happens with Brexit, COVID, corruption and ineptitude I don't think we will ever get back to the equivalent level that we were at on average a decade ago.... even with a competent government

thank Christ COVID is mostly under control now (tho it's affects are still around) but I dread to think what happens if we get another outbreak of something else or a new mutation which changes things.. and it could happen.

maschio · 2024-12-24T00:15:35+0000

xaldub said:
Sorry, I'm going to have to intervene on this one. COVID-19 was beginning to circulate outwith China before 2020 ( the 19 part refers to 2019 by the way ). I personally treated individuals who had the virus in late November - clearly I can't divulge more details due to patient confidentiality. Other European countries recorded similar eg. the first COVID-19 death in France ( proven by autopsy ) was in early/mid December ; the deceased man hadn't travelled outwith the country which means, given the incubation period of the virus, that COVID was circulating in the populace by at least the end of November. It should also be noted that Taiwanese medical authorities alerted WHO of a novel SARS like coronavirus in October 2019. The Chinese government tried to suppress this information through political channels, but the information had already been shared with medical/academic institutions throughout the world. WHO wilted and didn't take any action - one of their many errors throughout the pandemic.

Hmmm, sexyfox was awarded the covid medal of honour for his efforts throughout the pandemic. Posted a pic of it and everything. He knows his stuff that lad.

xaldub · 2024-12-24T00:22:28+0000

maschio said:
Hmmm, sexyfox was awarded the covid medal of honour for his efforts throughout the pandemic. Posted a pic of it and everything. He knows his stuff that lad.

His experience is still valid, but he's wrong on this one point ... COVID-19 was on these shores at the end of 2019, just not on the scale we saw from mid February/March 2020 onward.

maschio · 2024-12-24T00:30:45+0000

xaldub said:
His experience is still valid, but he's wrong on this one point ... COVID-19 was on these shores at the end of 2019, just not on the scale we saw from mid February/March 2020 onward.

I stand corrected. He did however, IIRC, remonstrate with the nurses when they were filming their tiktok dances, because it wouldn't create that hard at it look, which was nice.

rids57 · 2024-12-24T02:51:44+0000

I and my sister's whole family went down with something horrendous in the last week of December 2019. I was bed ridden for nine days, smell and taste gone, crazy fever (I lost 3 stone in just over a week), the worst cough I've ever had and basically felt as though I wanted to curl up and die. I've had a couple of bad doses of flu, both times leaving me with pneumonia but this was far worse than that. Personally I think it was the early variant of Covid and if it wasn't, I never want whatever it was again.

Rroff · 2024-12-24T05:35:05+0000

rids57 said:
I and my sister's whole family went down with something horrendous in the last week of December 2019. I was bed ridden for nine days, smell and taste gone, crazy fever (I lost 3 stone in just over a week), the worst cough I've ever had and basically felt as though I wanted to curl up and die. I've had a couple of bad doses of flu, both times leaving me with pneumonia but this was far worse than that. Personally I think it was the early variant of Covid and if it wasn't, I never want whatever it was again.

Similar for my sister's family, as an aside they had some Benylin branded medication, not sure which, that they reckoned made a huge difference.

They also had the same kind of haggard look, especially around the eyes, which marked many people who had early variants of COVID though for some reason was less typical with Delta onwards.

Freakbro · 2024-12-24T06:38:04+0000

Hagar said:
The job of government which they did pretty well was not to trash the economy.

Unlike the present iteration.

You guys trashed the economy far worse than Covid for your political ideology (cough *Brexit* cough) stop bemoaning others having the same fun for theirs

Hagar · 2024-12-24T09:34:44+0000

Freakbro said:
You guys trashed the economy far worse than Covid for your political ideology (cough *Brexit* cough) stop bemoaning others having the same fun for theirs

Happy Christmas.

It could have been far worse with Father Christmas on Furlough and shopping opportunities closed for the duration however as ever we muddle through and everything is alright at the end.

The solution is not to keep on looking backwards in anger and take opportunities as offered, France and Germany in turmoil could be one.

Blackjack Davy · 2024-12-24T15:15:31+0000

bigmike20vt said:
for me the jury is still out on this lot but my money is on them not being as bad as Liz the lettuce truss.

imo no one thing has ruined our economy but (and I hope I am wrong ) but imo no matter what happens with Brexit, COVID, corruption and ineptitude I don't think we will ever get back to the equivalent level that we were at on average a decade ago.... even with a competent government

thank Christ COVID is mostly under control now (tho it's affects are still around) but I dread to think what happens if we get another outbreak of something else or a new mutation which changes things.. and it could happen.

Bird flu says hi