CPU bottleneck confirmation

Armageus said:
I'm not saying that it is that, just that CS2 (and CSGo) before that have been well known for stuttering issues.


Your monitor should have AMD Freesync, which NVIDIA settings should still detect as GSync basic or something similar (can't remember the terminology), but as @H2S04 has said depends how your monitor is connected HDMI or DP?


Yes minecraft is dependent on single core performance, but it's java based and there are all kinds of random oddities with it.


The RAM is rubbish then - it's just generic ram chips, CL22! and explains why it doesn't manufacturer or SPD details in your screenshots
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I see. Monitor is HDMI connected, gsync setup should be near audio setup in this pic from what i learned.

Could the RAM be the problem then? I m running benchmarks now i update later

So would you want a PUBG or other game overlay video?
 
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urmom said:
Could the RAM be the problem then? I m running benchmarks now i update later
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Certainly won't help, while you obviously can't run faster than 2666mhz with that chipset, the latency is rubbish.

urmom said:
So would you want a PUBG or other game overlay video?
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I don't want any overlay videos :D

But you are better looking at synthetic benchmarks like 3dmark suggest above to check your hardware is in the ballpark of other people.
Then try some single player games to see if they experience stuttering (to rule out network latency etc).
 
Tetras said:
Yes.

1. It is not clear exactly what is happening and where/what the problem is, e.g. IS what you're experiencing just normal for your hardware? OR, is there is an actual issue that needs fixing.
and
2. IF the CPU is the problem, there's also this:


In other words: you're going to be bottlenecked if you upgrade the GPU, or bottlenecked if you upgrade the CPU and I don't have enough information from the benchmarks available to me, to reliably predict which upgrade is the best one.

I'd suggest you take the troubleshooting route being suggested above, so that we can identify if there is an actual problem, or if your hardware is performing normally.

Free benchmarks like 3D Mark Timespy and Cinebench will give you a comparable score and that's also helpful in identifying if your PC is working fine, or not.
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*3D Mark Timespy Results:
- Summary: https://ibb.co/KKSWNGj
- System info: https://ibb.co/5s3Hjcc
- Settings used / detailed scores: https://ibb.co/wQ2xPm0
- Detailed monitoring: https://ibb.co/71qjWT1

*Cinebench Results:
- Summary: https://ibb.co/n77bR61
- GPU Rank: https://ibb.co/RBxFBDw
- CPU multi core Rank: https://ibb.co/9svwDVB + TEMPS after 9/10 min
- CPU single core Rank: https://ibb.co/3vRCpQk
 
Armageus said:
Certainly won't help, while you obviously can't run faster than 2666mhz with that chipset, the latency is rubbish.


I don't want any overlay videos :D

But you are better looking at synthetic benchmarks like 3dmark suggest above to check your hardware is in the ballpark of other people.
Then try some single player games to see if they experience stuttering (to rule out network latency etc).
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i get it ;) could PUBG practice mode do the trick?
Also you said about network latency, i play on WIFI could that be a factor? I sure noticed lags and drops when i had no ping problem but idk
 
urmom said:
*3D Mark Timespy Results:
- Summary: https://ibb.co/KKSWNGj
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Good: your CPU is maintaining the advertised boost clock.
Good: your graphics card is maintaining the core/memory clocks.

Good: your graphics score is (more or less) correct for a 3060 8GB.

urmom said:
*Cinebench Results:
- Summary: https://ibb.co/n77bR61
- GPU Rank: https://ibb.co/RBxFBDw
- CPU multi core Rank: https://ibb.co/9svwDVB + TEMPS after 9/10 min
- CPU single core Rank: https://ibb.co/3vRCpQk
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Good: multi score looks alright.
Good: single core looks alright.
Bad: CPU very hot, but this is common for Cinebench multicore.
 
Craig_d1 said:
if you're going to upgrade board, cpu and ram. forget the 11th gen intel..it's old...also if you look at chart above, 11600 isn't that much more than a 10600..same cpu, just overclocked really....look at the the bottleneck it's causing with the 4090....you're getting 246fps, 1% low 157 and 0.1% 118, so you'll still get stutters...now compare that to the 7600, really bottom of stack for amd current gen...375fps, 224 1% and 185 for 0.1%
sorry, just reread and seen mobo not included, but just not convinced dropping 300euro is worth itat this point if this is your game of choice...upgrade your gpu again, and you'll be back in the same boat with the 11600....
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Yeah if i upgrade the board thats the idea, i might even switch to AMD config with or without 3060 according to the benchmark results. The 11 gen was only if i could change the minimum and get 144 fps stability but now it sounds improbable.
You are saying the 11600K would be bottlenecking my 3060 8GB or the contrary i didnt get it. I should upgrade my GPU for the 12 gen + CPU right?
 
Tetras said:
Good: your CPU is maintaining the advertised boost clock.
Good: your graphics card is maintaining the core/memory clocks.

Good: your graphics score is (more or less) correct for a 3060 8GB.


Good: multi score looks alright.
Good: single core looks alright.
Bad: CPU very hot, but this is common for Cinebench multicore.
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So then its just rubbish ram and bad CPU cooler that cause these lags? Some internal CPU throttling?
Still no lead problem subject?
 
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urmom said:
Some internal CPU throttling?
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Cinebench multicore is abnormally high load, so some throttling is fine if you have simple cooling.

Your gaming temperatures are fine, from what I can remember.

urmom said:
just rubbish ram
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The impact of memory speed depends on:
- The bottleneck.
- The game.
- The resolution/settings.

If you're playing esports at low res/settings, then it matters more, but, the question you are asking is:

"Would faster RAM lift the performance of my CPU enough to maintain 144 fps?" and if you look at the Gamers Nexus results (106.7 0.1% low, 137.1 1% low), you can see that even with low latency 3200 memory, it did not maintain 144 fps.
 
jigger said:
Are you using WiFi by any chance?
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Yes, i found the adapter name: realtek 8821CE wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC. Dont know if thats a cause in itself but i noticed these lags even when ping was fine.
Tomorrow i receive VESA certified DP cable and test with gsync on to see if there is any change
 
Armageus said:
It can be, hence why testing some single player offline games would be a good idea. (To rule out any lag based issues you are noticing, or whether it's just a cs2 issue)
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i m on it, but today the router is bugging i m on phone hot spot. I planned on downloading War Thunder, Destiny 2 or COD Warzone i thought those would be real enough games
 
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urmom said:
i dont have the box in my room, its next door. Are you implying wifi multiplayer gaming = stutters and lags?
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Wifi stutter/lag is usually more something you notice, e.g. you fire at someone and they're not there, because they reappear 5 metres to the left.

Whereas, performance stutter/lag is something you can feel, because it feels choppy and not smooth, the response to your mouse/keyboard movement is poor and the frame rate drops.

There are engines that mix the two, but that's the typical distinction.

Faulty wifi devices/drivers can also cause both.
 
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Tetras said:
Wifi stutter/lag is usually more something you notice, e.g. you fire at someone and they're not there, because they reappear 5 metres to the left.

Whereas, performance stutter/lag is something you can feel, because it feels choppy and not smooth, the response to your mouse/keyboard movement is poor and the frame rate drops.

There are engines that mix the two, but that's the typical distinction.
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then i think i can make the difference. I also learned about the therms input lag, screen tearing, surely there are more i'm not sure i m precise with the ones i used but i think you got it in how you define performance stutter/lag
 
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jigger said:
Very much so. Maybe add a drill bit, pin hammer and box of clips to the list.
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you want me to make a hole through the wall for ethernet or are you trolling?
If not sry that was a genuine question, and i cant make that hole i am just a studio tenant I would have to have my own internet installed
 
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