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I am in the process of sorting out which parts i need for my first pc build, but i have a question i hadnt thought of so far, my current pc is a I5 8600K and i run multiple things at once but after a while the cpu utilistion gets to 100% and programs crash and i am thinking of getting either 9800x3d or 9700x but wondered if this would still happen, not sure if i need more cores than my current pc (6 cores) or if i need to look at certain specs on the cpu's. hope someone can help thanks.
 
What apps are you trying to run exactly? If you're a heavy productivity user and not much of a gamer, you may be better off with a different CPU, like a 265K.

The core count is not normally an issue, but the overall performance of the CPU is. Each core in a 9700X or 9800X3D is much more powerful than the cores in your 8600K.

The apps sound a bit dodgy though, if they're crashing just because of high utilisation.
 
the ram is also being used fully, but i intend to increase the ram, running multiple browsers with multiple tabs and watching movies while moving files as well sometimes.
 
I'd say that apps are more likely to crash from running out of RAM than they are 100% CPU.

To buy more than 8 cores for browsing and movie watching would usually be mega-overkill, but if you're not gaming, I'd suggest Intel's 265K over a 9700X as the 265K has higher multithreading performance and the E-Cores can help responsiveness if frequently under heavy load.

The X3D is not a CPU I'd buy for general usage, it is really meant for gaming, otherwise you're paying a premium for a feature (the 3D cache) you won't use much.
 
New build for 2025 I would recommend 8 cores as a minimum. You can probably get away with a new gen 6 core chip, but not great for future proofing.
 
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I had 8600K for a very short time years ago and it was fine playing Guildwars 2 with Firefox open with multiple tabs while listening to music and voice comms though modern times may put more strain on older computers as my old laptop can no longer stream some Youtube videos as the CPU/RAM usage goes very high and it stutters a lot.

Today with my 13600K system depending how many tabs one has in a browser it can eat RAM and VRAM over time as when I had 16GB some times I would end task via task manager before starting up a game and it would free up 8-10GB of RAM and a couple of GB of VRAM. I thought I was fine on 16GB but upgrading to 32GB DDR4 a few months back was great as I now dont have to end task no more but still do out of habit and there was a massive difference in the loading times in Final Fantasy 16 I was playing through at the time.

If your certain that core count and RAM is limiting the system then an upgrade with 32GB of RAM would be the next step.
 
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main function will be browsing and multitasking but will be playing latest games and older games as well.
Alright, I'd suggest you go for the 265K, since it has more intensive multitasking headroom. You will lose some gaming performance compared to the 9800X3D, but it sounds like that is worth the sacrifice in your case.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £616.97 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

the ram is also being used fully, but i intend to increase the ram, running multiple browsers with multiple tabs and watching movies while moving files as well sometimes.
How much RAM do you have right now?
 
'Multi tasking' is a very wooly term.
What apps do you commonly use?

Why are you using multiple browsers with multiple tabs? At the same time? That sounds more like user error to me?

But to keep it simple, and in the absence of further detail, if you buy the best gaming pc for your budget, it's not going to be too shabby at 'Multi tasking' either, and will certainly be a lot better than an 8600 whether you go Intel or AMD
 
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even running a single browser with multiple tabs open can take 8gb let alone running anything else. 16gb should be bare min for ram in 2025.
 
even running a single browser with multiple tabs open can take 8gb let alone running anything else. 16gb should be bare min for ram in 2025.

Or just use bookmark links/folders nested in a bookmark toolbar.

It always makes me cringe when people have a bazillion tabs open... just, why? whats the point?
 
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Or just use bookmark links/folders nested in a bookmark toolbar.

It always makes me cringe when people have a bazillion tabs open... just, why? whats the point?
Good for multitasking, I use zen browser where you can have different workspaces open with different things. Ive tried to move as many of my desktop apps into the browser now
 
Good for multitasking, I use zen browser where you can have different workspaces open with different things. Ive tried to move as many of my desktop apps into the browser now

You can open a link from a bookmark toolbar in milliseconds, there's just no need to have more than a handfull of open tabs at any one time, it makes no practical difference other than consuming shed loads of RAM for no reason.
 
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Thread is going in circles...

If you want to build a new PC post your budget, the resolution and refresh rate of your monitors, if they are old 1080p screens do you want new 1440p?

List the spec of your current PC in case anything can be re-used, unlikely but for all we know you have a modern GPU in an old PC.

Then a bunch of people will come along and post you some build lists; note it might be better to create a new thread for the PC build in the correct sub forum and post the link at the bottom of this one.

If you list what apps you use and if there’s an upcoming game you are really looking forward to people will have a better idea how to balance the build.





Re your current PC

I will contradict a few of the other posts in that my ancient PC with very little ram is quiet capable of having loads of browser tabs open without any problems. Yes if building a new PC a few years ago 16GB was the go to ram configuration and 32GB is the go to configuration now unless you have particular needs then more might be recommended but browsers can run with much less.

It’s possible there’s a hardware or software issue with your current PC because apps shouldn’t crash just because the CPU is under high load. Yes things can become slow and unresponsive if the CPU is pegged near 100% but that isn’t the same as them crashing.

You have been very vague as to what apps you are using, some websites are far more demanding than others and we don’t even know which browser you are using.



Two things I noticed recently that caused slow downs on my ancient W10 PC:

1. Microsoft update reinstalled CompatTelRunner.exe and it was scanning my system, I took ownership of it and deleted it again...

2. I like to try different browsers from time to time and Opera had this stupid animation of a cat as the background that caused massive CPU spikes until I changed the background to a static image.

Also an SSD is a must if your old PC has a mechanical HDD just swapping that makes a huge difference. You might also find a cheap second hand ram kit you could fit.





Re: 9800x3d or 9700x / more cores

The IPC is higher on modern processors, they also have higher clock speeds so a current gen 6 core CPU is already a lot faster than your old 6 core CPU.

The 3d chips give a boost in gaming but you pay a price premium for them sometimes its worth it other times its better to spend the money else where e.g. the GPU.

If it was all down to cores then everyone would be buying 64 core thread ripper processors but they are overkill for most users.

9800x3d = 8 core 5.2Ghz +3d cache @ £399.95
9700x = 8 core 5.5Ghz @ £269.99

They are very different chips if you wanted more cores because the software you are using is very multi threaded over the cache the 3d chips have then there’s the 9900x to consider with 12 cores which overclockers have for £349.99




9600x = 6 core 5.4Ghz @ £188.99 has around double the performance of your CPU in a lot of bench marks:



So starting with a lower end chip then upgrading it when AMD release their next batch of processors is another option.
 
Personally I would hesitate with Intel as the current CPU is now end of life, next update being a new socket.

As for multiple tabs, I'm running multiple monitors with multiple browsers and dozens of tabs while running games, having YouTube on and working off PDF"s.

7600x with 32gb of ram and so far no issues.
 
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