Crazy fires in Los Angeles

c4 news had suggested rebuild costs 6BN->13BN , and american underwriters have been paying out 60bn avg for last 5 years from other incidents, with sub 20 before that,
main california underwriter total liabilities 38bn , but they only have assets of some 400M.
 
Unbelievable levels of destruction.

A new fire has broken out in an area north of Palisades called West Hills, named Kenneth Fire, where there are lots of trees and brush, but it's quite hilly so very difficult to get too other than by air resource and more windy that down by the coast and it's already 50 acres in size.
 
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Watching this currently.




This new fire is moving at a ridiculous pace, There is a 385 home gated community called Mountain View that's basically surrounded and the fire is now like 50 meters if that from property boundaries at the protection lines.
 
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BBC saying Kenneth fire is possible arson some absolute idiots out there, how can you do that after what happened.
 
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bingham67 said:
BBC saying Kenneth fire is possible arson some absolute idiots out there, how can you do that after what happened.
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Not surprised at all, As I said before, 90% of wild/bush fires are started by humans, either accidentally or on purpose.

Police say they've arrested the culprit. I hope he gets life in prison, over 10k houses and businesses have now been completely destroyed
 
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bingham67 said:
BBC saying Kenneth fire is possible arson some absolute idiots out there, how can you do that after what happened.
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Could be all sorts but the uglier side of many of US's big urban areas - lots of homeless, etc. some of which aren't all there (drugs and/or mental issues that have been failed by the system) and would love nothing better than to see the world burn.
 
Freakbro said:
Why do regressives and their followers without fail always have the most brain dead take on events?
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I am 99% convinced they haven't thought about anything other than how to annoy the other side.

I mean clearly in a localised area climate change has happened in LA, along side continued human expansion.
Not great bed fellows.

Honestly if you genuine have thought about it, looked at it and still come to the conclusion climate change is a lie your really really simple.
I know practically no one now who doesn't see it, but the dissenters are now "its not man made" which is at least a more debateable point, and could be correct.
We simply don't know for sure.
 
so are these homes typically using a lot of wood in construction - is there an angle where houses can/should be made less combustible ....
thinking of the cote d'azur in comparison where brick/concrete/render is the most common.
 
jpaul said:
so are these homes typically using a lot of wood in construction - is there an angle where houses can/should be made less combustible ....
thinking of the cote d'azur in comparison where brick/concrete/render is the most common.
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Of course there is. If you're in a fault zone you build to be earthquake resistant. If you're in a flood zone you build to counter flooding.
 
c'ote dazur uses reenforced concrete for earthquake/tremble protection - wood isn't cheap in europe especially post covid either

e: like I said .. so they use renforced *concrete*
The biggest recorded earthquake dates back to 23 February 1887. With its epicentre on the Italian Riviera, it claimed more than 600 lives. Buildings were destroyed, there were tidal waves, and the damage stretched as far as Cannes. “The fear is that these magnitude 5 or 6 earthquakes could happen again. The problem is that, unlike volcanic eruptions, we can’t predict them.”

Since 1993, all new buildings have had to comply with earthquake-resistant standards. These vary depending on the seismic zones (level 4 in the Alpes-Maritimes). The regulations ensure buildings can withstand powerful earthquakes, of magnitude 5 or 6. The issue is that “Most city centres were built much earlier, and do not comply with those standards. They could be at risk in case of strong tremors.”
 
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jpaul said:
so are these homes typically using a lot of wood in construction - is there an angle where houses can/should be made less combustible ....
thinking of the cote d'azur in comparison where brick/concrete/render is the most common.
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You build houses with wood when you live in a place that has an earthquake every week. If they built with bricks, every house would have cracked walls
 
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