Criticise the Saudis and you go home in pieces

Rroff · 23 Oct 2018 at 17:38

Screeeech said:
https://news.sky.com/story/sky-sources-jamal-khashoggis-body-parts-found-11533202

Looks like they've found the body, one source is claiming the body was found in the Saudi consul general's home..

Wonder if it is possible it is another body - that would really set fire to this whole thing if these events brought another murder to light.

Minstadave · 23 Oct 2018 at 17:40

Rroff said:
Wonder if it is possible it is another body - that would really set fire to this whole thing if these events brought another murder to light.

That would be fun!

Malevolence · 23 Oct 2018 at 18:24

Given it's the Saudis, one has to wonder whether he was he still alive and conscious when they started hacking him to bits?

Hades · 23 Oct 2018 at 18:25

Malevolence said:
Given it's the Saudis, one has to wonder whether he was he still alive and conscious when they started hacking him to bits?

Apparently, according to the audio recording, yes.

doodah · 24 Oct 2018 at 11:56

Turkey's plan looks like it's still reaping rewards, SA have now admitted to the forensic expert and body double taking part but it was still a result of a fist fight.

Complete denial/no knowledge, then it was us but a huge accident and now yes we had these people involved but please believe our previous version of events. Comical.

I feel sorry for the son, assume he couldn't refuse going to the palace for that BS photo op.

Does the kingdom not have advisers? How on earth would a photo op with the son ever be a good spin for MBS/King Salman?

Freakbro · 24 Oct 2018 at 12:04

And as per the Russian poisoning, when the one story comes out then many other stories start resurfacing about disappearing Russians, or in this case Saudi journalists/critics.

On the news last night they mentioned this one back in Sept https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ondon-mbs-ghanem-al-dosari-show-a8538406.html where a guy was attacked in the middle of the day in London. The thing that got me was what they said to him

“I told them this was not Riyadh, this is London, and the guy immediately said: ‘**** London, their Queen is our slave and their police are our dogs.”

dowie · 24 Oct 2018 at 13:39

doodah said:
Does the kingdom not have advisers? How on earth would a photo op with the son ever be a good spin for MBS/King Salman?

It is probably aimed more at a domestic and regional audience.

Nasher · 24 Oct 2018 at 18:39

Problem is who do you trust, the Turks or SA. Turkey cracks down on it's media far harsher than SA [normally] does. It's not clear if the Prince is involved, but it's absolutely clear Erdogan is in Turkey. Who runs his country like Putin runs Russia.

I mean...https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ey-crackdown-journalists-overdrive-since-coup

IronWarrior · 24 Oct 2018 at 20:48

SA is ranked in the bottom 10 of the world press freedom index, they ranked 169 with North Korea at 180 and Turkey at 157. lol

I wouldn't trust a single thing any of them saying, the internet is full of their bot armies. lol

ianh · 7 Nov 2018 at 11:51

I mean, they wouldn't do it again would they........................would they?????????????

Daily Mail link alongside "unconfirmed" report - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...list-Saudi-Arabia-killed-torture-custody.html

Another dissident journalist has reportedly been tortured and killed in Saudi Arabia.

Turki Bin Abdul Aziz Al-Jasser is said to have been murdered in jail a month after Jamal Khashoggi was slaughtered in the kingdom's Istanbul consulate.

News site "The New Khaleej" reported Al-Jasser's death on Saturday quoting human rights sources. The report has not been confirmed.

dowie · 7 Nov 2018 at 11:57

They kill people within the country all the time, that’s not going to provoke much outcry internationally.

Twitter might have some questions to answer re: privacy and the part played by some employees in the region.

ianh · 7 Nov 2018 at 12:37

dowie said:
They kill people within the country all the time

Not just locals they may/may not bump off either allegedly - happened 2015 at a hotel near a BAE Systems compound.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/mystery-surrounds-death-of-us-defense-contract-worker-at-saudi-hotel

Sankari · 12 Nov 2018 at 06:58

Khashoggi's last words, confirmed by the audio recording: 'I’m suffocating… Take this bag off my head, I’m claustrophobic.'

dowie · 12 Nov 2018 at 07:49

Evangelion said:
Khashoggi's last words, confirmed by the audio recording: 'I’m suffocating… Take this bag off my head, I’m claustrophobic.'

Has the recording/transcript of it been leaked? Or just some snippets? You got a link?

Sankari · 12 Nov 2018 at 08:15

dowie said:
Has the recording/transcript of it been leaked? Or just some snippets? You got a link?

It's in circulation among several countries. The quote is from Al Jazeera.

Malevolence · 12 Nov 2018 at 08:17

Such a strange thing to say for man who apparently died during a bout of fisticuffs. How long before the Saudis claim that he must've been referring to a BVM?

doodah · 12 Nov 2018 at 12:59

He obviously slipped and his head landed in the bag, the rest of the scuffle was the hit squad flaling around trying to get the bag off.

Jeremy Hunt is due to have a 'tough' chat with Saudi officials, I bet they are trembling in their boots.

ubersonic · 13 Nov 2018 at 11:40

doodah said:
Jeremy Hunt is due to have a 'tough' chat with Saudi officials, I bet they are trembling in their boots.

Well, if he's there to tell him the prince has put him in charge of Saudi healthcare they will be terrified ^^

doodah · 13 Nov 2018 at 12:06

That's a good'un

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dowie · 15 Nov 2018 at 10:58

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-s...enalty-in-khashoggi-murder-case-idUKKCN1NK1AZ

Saudi Arabia’s public prosecutor said on Thursday he was seeking the death penalty for five out of 11 suspects charged in the murder of prominent journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

Wonder if it will include the more senior types in the plot with close links to MBS?

Also you've got to wonder what some of the members of the Saudi security/intelligence services think of it - ostensibly these guys were following orders from the top and now they're being sacrificed by the people who gave the orders in the first place.