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bikes · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:17

JohnnyG said:
There are ways of colouring red diesel white if you know how though

[Monty python mode]

You naughty naughty boy

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bikes · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:19

OllyM said:
Red diesel is called red diesel because it's got a red dye in, which shows if it's intended for off-road use only - the level of duty on it is much, much lower than road diesel fuel.

Yes I know that matey, its used in canal barges too.

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:32

JohnnyG said:
There are ways of colouring red diesel white if you know how though

turning red diesel white still won't save you if you're dipped.
all you'll have done is wasted time and money on the colouring process.

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:33

bikes said:
Whats with all the different colours of Diesel, I only thought it came in 2 colours, white & red

apparently this site sells red diesel.
white diesel
blue diesel
orange diesel
yellow diesel.
purple diesel.

and
my favourite.

Vin Diesel.
lol

JohnnyG · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:37

The_Dark_Side said:
turning red diesel white still won't save you if you're dipped.
all you'll have done is wasted time and money on the colouring process.

Depends how much you pay for it I guess. 30p per litre of red + 125ml of vanilla essence at pennies is worth the risk

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:39

JohnnyG said:
Depends how much you pay for it I guess. 30p per litre of red + 125ml of vanilla essence at pennies is worth the risk

so why dye it?

JohnnyG · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:47

The_Dark_Side said:
so why dye it?

Have you read the whole site?

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:51

JohnnyG said:
Have you read the whole site?

no but i'm curious to know why you would want to remove the dye from red diesel.

JohnnyG · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:57

The_Dark_Side said:
no but i'm curious to know why you would want to remove the dye from red diesel.

Ok, this page might tell you what I'm on about

Scuzi · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:05

JohnnyG said:
No I think it's cheaper because you can only legally use it in agricultural vehicles, maybe a RON type thing I'm not sure :/
There are ways of colouring red diesel white if you know how though

Mixing red and green diesel is an old trick we used to use. Worked a treat until the peelers got a load of fancy new dipping equipment.

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:06

JohnnyG said:
Ok, this page might tell you what I'm on about

no i want you to explain why?
i think it's because you think if you remove the dye then if dipped they'll think you're running white diesel.
if so then you're wrong.

JohnnyG · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:09

The_Dark_Side said:
no i want you to explain why?
i think it's because you think if you remove the dye then if dipped they'll think you're running white diesel.
if so then you're wrong.

The page I've linked to more than once said:
How can you help us? If you're a petrol-head and you like to hang around messaging boards with other petrol-heads, why not wind up your online friends with helpful posts like:

Wish I could be bothered to carry on...

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:12

JohnnyG said:
Wish I could be bothered to carry on...

all i'm asking is for you explain your reasoning.
is that so difficult?

JohnnyG · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:14

The_Dark_Side said:
all i'm asking is for you explain your reasoning.
is that so difficult?

It seems very difficult for you

Read all my posts in this thread & cross reference them with the link I keep having to post

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:20

JohnnyG said:
It seems very difficult for you
Read all my posts in this thread & cross reference them with the link I keep having to post

you posted there were ways to get the dye out of red diesel.
i asked why you want to get the dye out of it.
apparently, rather than post a simple answer you find it easier to post and repost quoting various links which would take time to scan for your intended point when you could sum it up yourself in a sentence or two.

Scuzi · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:24

The_Dark_Side said:
you posted there were ways to get the dye out of red diesel.
i asked why you want to get the dye out of it.
apparently, rather than post a simple answer you find it easier to post and repost quoting various links which would take time to scan for your intended point when you could sum it up yourself in a sentence or two.

I think the reason he wants to remove the red colour is so that it appears to be white diesel visually. His posts seemed straight forward and understandable to me.

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:26

Scuzi said:
I think the reason he wants to remove the red colour is so that it appears to be white diesel visually..

for what purpose?
what difference does it make what it looks like?
bearing in mind it's held in a container bolted to the bottom of your car where the contents cannot be seen.

JohnnyG · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:30

The_Dark_Side said:
you posted there were ways to get the dye out of red diesel.
i asked why you want to get the dye out of it.
apparently, rather than post a simple answer you find it easier to post and repost quoting various links which would take time to scan for your intended point when you could sum it up yourself in a sentence or two.

Ok look at it this way.
I've bought super unleaded petrol from petroldirect.com & I know all about the available diesel colours in the EEC & their intended uses.
I add 125ml of vanilla essence per litre of red diesel to turn it white as that is a cost effective risk as I'm only paying 30p per litre for Red.
Surely if I am paying 50% per litre less for red & turning it white at pennies then it's a good deal, if I were doing it?

Glaucus · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:30

The_Dark_Side said:
for what purpose?
what difference does it make what it looks like?
bearing in mind it's held in a container bolted to the bottom of your car where the contents cannot be seen.

Because red diesel is cheap, hardly any duty on it,
White diesel used for cars/lorry's is 93.9pish a litre.

By removing the red from diesel you can run it in normal cars and not get caught. They can test the fuel and see if its red or not. Although I'm sure the red is not the only way to test nowadays.

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:33

JohnnyG said:
Ok look at it this way.
I've bought super unleaded petrol from petroldirect.com & I know all about the available diesel colours in the EEC & their intended uses.
I add 125ml of vanilla essence per litre of red diesel to turn it white as that is a cost effective risk as I'm only paying 30p per litre for Red.
Surely if I am paying 50% per litre less for red & turning it white at pennies then it's a good deal, if I were doing it?

AcidHell2 said:
Because red diesel is cheap, hardly any duty on it,
White diesel used for cars/lorry's is 93.9pish a litre.

By removing the red from diesel you can run it in normal cars and not get caught. They can test the fuel and see if its red or not. Although I'm sure the red is not the only way to test nowadays.

the only way anyone can tell if your car is running white diesel is if they dip your tank.
removing the dye has no effect.
all it does is turn the stuff white, unfortunately when they dip your tank the OTHER additives they add to white diesel to turn it red show up even though you've removed the dye.

so you get busted either way.