Cut-price booze and cigarettes

Glaucus · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:35

The_Dark_Side said:
the only way anyone can tell if your car is running white diesel is if they dip your tank.
removing the dye has no effect.
all it does is turn the stuff white, unfortunately when they dip your tank the OTHER additives in red diesel show up even though you've removed the dye.

As I said, in old times it use to be just the dye. Also red stains the pipes/tank, so even if you fill up with white, they can still tell they've used red.

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:41

AcidHell2 said:
As I said, in old times it use to be just the dye. Also red stains the pipes/tank, so even if you fill up with white, they can still tell they've used red.

stained pipes mean nothing though.
you were legally allowed to use red during the fuel protests of 2000 (as long as you kept the receipts and paid the duty) so a stained filter housing or pipes don't mean you're guilty of anything.

remember almost all people running red (or red with the dye removed) run it all the time so should they ever be unlucky to be stopped and dipped, the fuel will still have those additives in and it'll get them a nice fine.

JohnnyG · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:43

The_Dark_Side said:
the only way anyone can tell if your car is running white diesel is if they dip your tank.
removing the dye has no effect.
all it does is turn the stuff white, unfortunately when they dip your tank the OTHER additives they add to white diesel to turn it red show up even though you've removed the dye.

so you get busted either way.

Cool, next time I make up a load of nonsense about buying fuel online & colouring it to avoid duty or the fuzz I'll remember to get my facts right in case someone actually believes me

Glaucus · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:45

The_Dark_Side said:
stained pipes mean nothing though.
you were legally allowed to use red during the fuel protests of 2000 (as long as you kept the receipts and paid the duty) so a stained filter housing or pipes don't mean you're guilty of anything.

remember almost all people running red (or red with the dye removed) run it all the time so should they ever be unlucky to be stopped and dipped, the fuel will still have those additives in and it'll get them a nice fine.

But that doesn't make sense. surely you could just say you are just using it. Show the receipts and say your about to send them off to pay for the duty?

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:50

JohnnyG said:
Cool, next time I make up a load of nonsense about buying fuel online & colouring it to avoid duty or the fuzz I'll remember to get my facts right in case someone actually believes me

there are loads of people that actually believe that they can get the dye out and thereby appear to be running white.
big mistake.
granted the chances of being dipped are pretty small but if it happens then they will suss you out.

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:51

AcidHell2 said:
But that doesn't make sense. surely you could just say you are just using it. Show the receipts and say your about to send them off to pay for the duty?

during the fuel protest the white diesel ran out first.
to try to keep the country going the treasury decided you could use red as long as you paid the duty on it.

JohnnyG · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:53

The_Dark_Side said:
there are loads of people that actually believe that they can get the dye out and thereby appear to be running white.
big mistake.
granted the chances of being dipped are pretty small but if it happens then they will suss you out.

Are you intentionally mis-reading my posts or just not reading them at all?

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:55

JohnnyG said:
Cool, next time I make up a load of nonsense about buying fuel online & colouring it to avoid duty or the fuzz I'll remember to get my facts right in case someone actually believes me

your initial post simply said there were ways to get dye out of red diesel.
i merely asked why you would want to.

JohnnyG · 12 Nov 2006 at 21:02

The_Dark_Side said:
your initial post simply said there were ways to get dye out of red diesel.
i merely asked why you would want to.

That wasn't my initial post & I merely asked you to read the previous ones

My next delivery of red diesel from petroldirect.com is due on Wednesday, it's only 30p per litre which I'm sure you'll agree is a great price, but I still intend to colour it white with vanilla essence at a tiny cost, as usual, to reduce the risk of getting caught using it in my Toerag. You can't knock me for that

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 21:07

JohnnyG said:
That wasn't my initial post & I merely asked you to read the previous ones
My next delivery of red diesel from petroldirect.com is due on Wednesday, it's only 30p per litre which I'm sure you'll agree is a great price, but I still intend to colour it white with vanilla essence at a tiny cost, as usual, to reduce the risk of getting caught using it in my Toerag. You can't knock me for that

lol,
i know the previous posts were sarcast-tastic you nugget.
lol
i just thought for the purposes of discussion i'd treat the post concerning dye removal as if it were serious as that particular post may have appeared serious to others reading it.

Cold_And_Miserable · 12 Nov 2006 at 21:08

Plutonium

Particularly useful for some models of DeLorean sports cars, we can souce Plutonium in both Pu-238 and Pu-239 isotopes (Pu-239 is limited to 9 kilograms per customer).

Is that a reference to Back to the Future? Selling 239 to the public is about as likely as George Bush having a 3rd presidency.

zetec452 · 12 Nov 2006 at 21:41

Ultra Low Cost Value Unleaded (50 RON)

Especially popular with Rover Metro and Nissan Micra drivers, our 50 RON ULCVU fuel is made from refinery leftovers. This is a very inexpensive fuel indeed as it is actually classified as industrial waste rather than fuel.

Sounds like it will do cars a lot of good.

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 21:52

i definitely want to see what a car runs like on Vin Diesel.

Daveyboy · 12 Nov 2006 at 21:53

you lot have far too much time on your hands to wind people up!

Funny thing is how many people think that site is real

The_Dark_Side · 12 Nov 2006 at 21:56

Daveyboy said:
you lot have far too much time on your hands to wind people up!

Funny thing is how many people think that site is real

you mean i can't order isotopes?
grr

manveruppd · 12 Nov 2006 at 22:12

That site was brilliant!

Had me totally convinced until I read the "specialty fuels"

Regarding the original story, I sure as hell hope duty isn't harmonised - not everyone in the EU earns as high wages as the British do, so what makes you think we can afford to pay the same taxes? You should take your own government to account about the billions they throw down the all-devouring gullet of your inefficient bureaucracies and health service rather than try and screw over everyone else as well. Seriously, you earn the highest wages and are among the most highly-taxed - where's all that money going? Your goverment thinks they're entitled to be there and collect taxes, but that isn't the case: if they're not putting your taxes to good use, if they're not providing good value for money, people will go elsewhere, to countries where they can get more for their money, whether by permanently emigrating or simply by mail-ordering booze.

I personally look forwards to being able to mail order some Zubrowka from Poland, which costs £18 per bottle in the only shop in Leeds I've seen it in, but only £4 from the duty free shop at the airport in Cyprus, and probably around £2 in Poland!