Yeah. Hopefully they learned a valuable lesson and do not repeat it again. I gave them a pass on this occasion.I do find the whole saga a bit funny to be honest. Before release I dared to boldly claim that this might not been the best game ever and was shot down.
I think they have rode the wave now, people don't seem to care anymore and have moved on. You will probably see a Witcher 4 announcement soon to make people forget even more.
*** Cyberpunk 2077 ***
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It was a poor/crappy decision by CD project to release it in the state it's in. However people shouldn't pre order games, there's been enough examples to show people how it can go.
Indeed, bad decision to release it in that state. I am guessing there was just too much financial pressure for them to do so, no other explanation makes sense.
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Cyberpunk 2077s lead gameplay designer leaves CD Projekt RED
https://www.guru3d.com/news_story/cyberpunk_2077s_lead_gameplay_designer_leaves_cd_projekt_red.html
Cyberpunk 2077 lead gameplay designer Andrzej Zawadzki is leaving CD Projekt RED. Zawadzki was employed by the game studio for almost eight years.
Zawadzki announced his departure on Twitter, saying, "After almost 8 years, my time at CDPR has come to an end. It's time for the new adventure. To every person I've met on the way – thank youIt was an honor and pleasure. See you around
https://www.guru3d.com/news_story/cyberpunk_2077s_lead_gameplay_designer_leaves_cd_projekt_red.html
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Kinguin now offering the game at £17.97... Kinda miffed I spent RRP on it now!
Let's face it, we will never get any major missing content updates now, it's all little bug fix patches and stuff. Game may as well go EOL.
Let's face it, we will never get any major missing content updates now, it's all little bug fix patches and stuff. Game may as well go EOL.
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I've just been listening to the HZD soundtrack - it's epic! Actually kinda excited for it now
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I do find the whole saga a bit funny to be honest. Before release I dared to boldly claim that this might not been the best game ever and was shot down.
I think they have rode the wave now, people don't seem to care anymore and have moved on. You will probably see a Witcher 4 announcement soon to make people forget even more.
I was right there with you - people just don't want to hear it and become so invested in a product that any suggestion it won't be the second coming (or isn't the best thing ever right around launch) are viewed as some kind of personal attack. Then you slowly but surely see those same people going "ah I mean it's not perfect but it's still really good"... then a bit longer "the game does have some pretty big flaws but I still enjoyed it"... and eventually "yeah it was a big disappointment wish I'd waited until it was cheaper or not bothered"
You can also have fun trying to guess who will be the staunch supporters of the game months after launch even after everyone else has wised up - like the people still avidly playing FO76 now and insistent that it's not the big disaster we could all clearly see it was. "I'm still playing it I've done 6 playthroughs already and about to start another" etc.
We should have a sweepstakes next time
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Interesting... I wonder which slot you'd put me in, for example.....?
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I'll try and guess without looking up any post history
You seem butthurt by my comment, so I'm going to suggest perhaps you bought the hype, splashed £60 or whatever on the game and have since been defending it to justify your decision. Close? Either way I don't really care, it is what it is - maybe you'll learn for the next game or maybe you're already refreshing CDPR's homepage wildly looking for the pre-order for 2078 or Witcher 4 to popup so you can click asap
I will be pre ordering the Cyberpunk sequel
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Nope.
Firstly, not butthurt but actually quite interested in what you'd guess... in the same way you get those personality tests, the What Marvel Character Are You quizzes, or that app that reckons it could guess your age/name/favourite colour/what film you're thinking of.... In short, that was me saying, "Go on then".
As for CP2077 - I saw the initial footage and thought it could be cool. Then saw bullets going round corners and decided it was going to be a steaming pile of ridiculous fantasy ***** that could **** right off.
The hype subsequently built and built, but I only gave it a second look when people whose opinions I value started taking an interest. I decided to see what it was like after release and then, based off watching a couple hours of someone else playing, decided I might give it a go if I ever manage to find a 3080.
As is, I paid the grand sum of £0 for it, as my best mate gifted it to me. I still don't have the 3080, but the game turned out to be a lot better than I was expecting!
It's not the best game I've ever played, but they did enough that kept me occupied and maintained my interest for over 300hrs.
It's still pretty janky and Destination made a good list of the main issues, but it's nowhere near as bad as people had led me to believe. I'm mostly just quietly disappointed that CDPR didn't fix all this, despite all the delays when they said that's what they were doing.
I'm certainly no fanboy - I haven't even finished Witcher 2, never mind 3 or 4!
If they do another Cyberpunk, I'll keep my options open and hope they learn from the failures 2077 had.
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Pretty fair tbh. If I was given a copy for free I'd give it a go as well I expect - but there are literally thousands of games that "are pretty good" or "better than expected" when the expectation has been set at "terrible" so there's just nothing (for me) that makes this one stand out
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How's that old gaming aphorism go?
Pre-order in haste, repent at leisure?
Something like that...
Pre-order in haste, repent at leisure?
Something like that...
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Well... With other games I've not really experienced such extremes of hype and hatred, nor seen such extreme swings from one to the other. The closest was probably Star Citizen (and yes, this time I did fall for the hype on that particular train wreck), but that one was more a very slow change as the dream gradually died out with each subsequent update and patch release.
If I had to highlight anything about CP2077 then, aside from having Keanu Reeves on your shoulder as the comic relief, I'd probably say the way they implemented the RPG elements.
I know it was based on a tabletop RPG (ie CP2020), but unlike many other games similarly based, this one actually feels like it... from the mechanics, to the plots, the encounters, the random statted loot and all that, everything feels like you're playing a reasonably well balanced RPG - Last time I enjoyed such a thing was 20 years ago, playing the original Baldur's Gate.
The graphics are also gorgeously engaging on a 3080, but since I don't have one of my own I guess they technically don't count.
I had a good enough time that they more than earned the £250 I spent on my CE and steam copy. A sequel would only be better, so no issues with pre-ordering again if I can grab a CE and steam copy for £250 again.
(yes, seriously - it was my GOTY 2020, despite its imperfections - the highs were so high they made the lows easy to forgive)
(yes, seriously - it was my GOTY 2020, despite its imperfections - the highs were so high they made the lows easy to forgive)
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Tried to play this again today. I find it absolute garbage on my pc. Im playing with a 5820k at 4.3ghz and an rtx 3070. It currently seems to have serious issues pulling in textures. I get pop in and some billboard posters actually stay a blurred mess forever.
Wtf is going on with Npcs. Why the hell are people still in the same place or wandering in the same circles after I skip 5 hours into the night?
There is animations of characters puking in the street. Then you go round the block and there is another one doing an identical thing but in a different skin. Or sometimes the same skin!
Its abysmal. When you look at a game like Gta or RDR2 you realise how lifeless this stupid game is.
Seeing these crappy issues removed any hope of me dedicating any more time to it.
Wtf is going on with Npcs. Why the hell are people still in the same place or wandering in the same circles after I skip 5 hours into the night?
There is animations of characters puking in the street. Then you go round the block and there is another one doing an identical thing but in a different skin. Or sometimes the same skin!
Its abysmal. When you look at a game like Gta or RDR2 you realise how lifeless this stupid game is.
Seeing these crappy issues removed any hope of me dedicating any more time to it.
If you skip time it doesn't do a fast simulation it just adjusts the time of day visually and forwards any relevant event timers.
I'm not sure what is going on performance wise with the game though - I played on a 1650 V2 @ 4.4GHz (1 generation 6 core/12 thread behind your CPU) and a 3070FE at 1440p with all settings on ultra mostly 60 FPS with little to no pop in or delayed texture loading, etc. unless I played for around 2 hours when performance would start degrading if I didn't restart the game but loads of other people have it like you are describing struggling to get over 45 FPS with the same settings and lots of delayed asset loading, etc.
On another note I'm a bit confused as to the endings in this game and/or there are other slight variations that aren't listed on the various gaming websites:
Why do people talk as if there isn't an ending where everyone lives (aside from Johnny) and V gets to live? because it is one of the possible endings.
Though it is a bit confusing as the dialogue leading up to it seems to portray a different outcome to what actually happens.
Though it is a bit confusing as the dialogue leading up to it seems to portray a different outcome to what actually happens.