Cycle Lanes: Right of Way

I would argue that doctors that belittle people for trying to get out to improve their health and fitness are idiots that are in the wrong job.

Depends what kind of doctor he claims to be. Maybe he's a doctor of dinosaurs like Ross.

Certainly talks like he's from the stone age.
 
You mean you have to cycle carefully and responsibly?
Perish the thought.....

We can do that adequately enough whilst riding on the roads.

It would be like telling a car driver to go down a road with speed bumps every 20 metres instead of driving down a normal road.

I purposely never use pavement cycle paths as they're normally not very good quality with broken slabs, pedestrians (particularly kids and dog wakers) can be unpredictable.
 
We can do that adequately enough whilst riding on the roads.

It would be like telling a car driver to go down a road with speed bumps every 20 metres instead of driving down a normal road.

I purposely never use pavement cycle paths as they're normally not very good quality with broken slabs, pedestrians (particularly kids and dog wakers) can be unpredictable.

Ever think that youre being inconsiderate holding up all the car drivers who would like to not be stuck behind an idiotic cyclist whos weaving around on the road instead of using the purpose built cycle path next to him?......thought not.:(
 
If your responsible about it, you are highly unlikely to be fines for riding on the pavement...

Interesting read thanks,Well ive been doing it since 2007 and never had an issue,I've seen plenty of police. ;)

I am responsible,I dont race around i just take my sweet time,Its still faster than walking and ALWAYS give way to pedestrians.
 
Ever think that youre being inconsiderate holding up all the car drivers who would like to not be stuck behind an idiotic cyclist whos weaving around on the road instead of using the purpose built cycle path next to him?......thought not.:(

A lot are simply not fit for purpose, one near me always has cars parked on it, and the clear bits have debris .. theres just no point using it, its more dangerous as you have to pull on and off the main lane constantly, so fo safetys sake, you just have to ride down the road as normal.
 
Ever think that youre being inconsiderate holding up all the car drivers who would like to not be stuck behind an idiotic cyclist whos weaving around on the road instead of using the purpose built cycle path next to him?......thought not.:(

I'm going to bite, because I have 20 minutes to kill.

50% of my commute is riding passed cars sat gridlocked.
I also don't weave, and normally cycle around 20MPH.

Ever think that you're being inconsiderate clogging up the roads for all the cyclists and busses who would not like to be stuck behind stationary cars?

Thought not.

Cyclists not using a pavement cycle lane, isn't the problem, but rather the infrastructure.
 
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I'm going to bite, because I have 20 minutes to kill.

50% of my commute is riding passed cars sat gridlocked.
I also don't weave, and normally cycle around 20MPH.

Ever think that you're being inconsiderate clogging up the roads for all the cyclists and busses who would not like to be stuck behind stationary cars?

Thought not.
Lol no real come back argument then. :D
 
Same rubbish said every time a thread like this comes up.
Give it a rest already, it's boring and not helpful.

Its true though. Travelling to Seahouses along the country road, some farmer with a trailer been held up by a group of cyclists. So many places they could have pulled over to allow the farmer to get on with his days work but they purposefully rode far enough over to prevent him from passing even on the few straight sections of the road. This was a group of lycra clad 30 - 40(+) year old's. When he did finally get passed (this went on for some time) they all stuck their fingers up at him. The farmer just carried on and ignored them.

I would say I have found the minority of **** head cyclists growing in numbers. Majority still great and aware of their surroundings but that minority seem unaware that they are often putting themselves at risk more than anyone else.

A small Welsh village we go to has had to put up their own signs asking cyclists to slow down due to them speeding down through the village and carrying the speed through! So far 2 people hit just coming out of their own homes (houses open out onto the street) one of which was airlifted to hospital with serious injuries. The village has never had this sort of problem before and they are seeing a clear change in attitude of a growing number of cyclists.
 
You ignored the give way at junctions comment. That is the main issue but for shared use paths pedestrians are fairly unpredictable compared to road traffic and many don't expect a cyclist despite it being a shared use path.

You're right, I did ignore the give way at junctions comment. Mostly because I don't see it as an issue. You're supposed to stop at red lights too, but a lot of cyclists seem to think they're exempt from this, or any other rule of the road that doesn't suit them at the time.

As I said, I'm a cyclist. I'm also a driver, a motorcyclist and a pedestrian. I'd much rather cycle on a path that has been dedicated for use by cyclists than cycle on the road. It's safer for all concerned, and having to stop occasionally at a junction isn't really an issue. If you have to do it every 100 feet, I might slightly agree, but other than that, I really just don't. If your cycle lanes aren't fit for purpose, make a formal complain to the council about them, or speak to your local representative. They probably won't do anything about it, but at least they'll have to respond.

I've also never really had a problem with a pedestrian on a cycle path either. The paths are generally big enough for both, and some are split with pedestrian/cyclist markings that *most* people abide by. You're always going to get one idiot, but you get that everywhere.
 
You're right, I did ignore the give way at junctions comment. Mostly because I don't see it as an issue.

I'm guessing he's referring to to side road junctions, where the cycle lane on the main road comes to a stop, so you basically have to stop, then start again, whereas if you were in the main traffic flow, you'd just carry on straight as normal.

Edit, like this
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Who has priority at a busy roundabout? Pedestrians, cyclists, motorists or Black Lives Matter protestors?

I'm sure the Daily mail and Breitbart would tell us BLM believe they had priority, all while BLM release a statement saying no such thing.;)
 
I'm guessing he's referring to to side road junctions, where the cycle lane on the main road comes to a stop, so you basically have to stop, then start again, whereas if you were in the main traffic flow, you'd just carry on straight as normal.

Edit, like this
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And now think of one of those every 50m for a km or so.

I'm sure they are fine if you're riding along at 5mph, but if you're actually cycling to work at 10-20mph then you start to see why they care a nightmare and riding on the road makes more sense.

They really need to get rid of cycle paths (or acknowledge they are for kids) and stick to creating cycle lanes.
 
I think everyone should jump on a bike once a year, commute to work for a week or so, especially those that have a massive issue with cyclists.

then you'll change your views :) I cycle and I drive and I personally never get annoyed with cyclists who behave properly on the road.

we've got bad apples everywhere, drivers, pedestrians and cyclists.

I cycle every day, to work and back.. 100ish miles a week, through central london and I encounter some epic stuff.

e.g.




 
I hate these threads, always seems to be people desperate to fit in to their pre-defined "tribes"

I'm a driver, cyclist and pedestrian.
I see terrible driving, cycling and pedestrian...ing.
I pay more road tax than most people. (especially the "type" that like to stop and tell you this)
Abusive, fat, middle aged, lycra clad group riders are just testosterone fuelled idiots with a point to prove in that 3 hours away from the wife. Its nothing to do with the bike.
The driving camp has the largest amount of low rate, abusive, thick, scumbags.
 
I hate these threads, always seems to be people desperate to fit in to their pre-defined "tribes"

I'm a driver, cyclist and pedestrian.
I see terrible driving, cycling and pedestrian...ing.
I pay more road tax than most people. (especially the "type" that like to stop and tell you this)
Abusive, fat, middle aged, lycra clad group riders are just testosterone fuelled idiots with a point to prove in that 3 hours away from the wife. Its nothing to do with the bike.
The driving camp has the largest amount of low rate, abusive, thick, scumbags.

it's very difficult to have an unbiased view tbh.. majority will defend their preferred form of transport and will struggle to accept anything else.
 
I think the above videos answer exactly why cyclists take the lane to make it impossible for cars to pass, if you ride in the gutter you just get cut up, and getting cut up on a bike can have mortal consequences.
It might pee some car drivers off thinking you're being selfish, but at least it prevents suicidal side swipes.

I drive and cycle, so I'm very aware of the issues.. As said, if people who don't cycle were made to, they'd have the life scared out of them with the way a minority of drivers behave. You'd literally only have to cycle for a week and you'd have a near death experience.
 
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I like how the first driver not only cuts up grudas but also almost runs over a pedestrian crossing the road seconds later. :(
 
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