Cyclists apopletic about law being applied to them

Resident · 10 Feb 2022 at 17:24

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...-police-traffic-light-crackdown-row-red-light

I find it absolutely hilarious that some many cycling and road safety campaigners are going off their collect nut to moan that police are applying the law to them and punishing them in accordance with the law.
One such campaigner, going by the username 'CyclingMikey tired of road crime.' on Twitter even stated that police should be focusing on evidence-led crime rather than target-led.

Several forces held operations with the worst one (that I've read) where GMP watched one specific junction and in a 90 min window, THIRTY offending cylcists were caught.

Personally I hope this is only the start. I hope that many more operations in a similar nature are conducted. That way a proper picture of just how many offences are committed by cyclists & how much of the danger they claim they face is down to their own reckless behaviour.

Shadowness · 10 Feb 2022 at 17:29

Reckless behaviour?

Lol. Grow up

Resident · 10 Feb 2022 at 17:31

Shadowness said:
Reckless behaviour?

Lol. Grow up

So running a red light isn't reckless?

Think your lycra is a bit tight mate.

Dave85 · 10 Feb 2022 at 17:36

That is indeed hilarious. Cyclists really do not do themselves any favours. New highway code is ridiculous but then they have the audacity to moan when the police spend some time catching the cyclists running red lights. Total boabs as we call them up here.

Malevolence · 10 Feb 2022 at 17:37

grudas · 10 Feb 2022 at 17:39

Oh. Another rant about cyclists thread. Here we go…

Minusorange · 10 Feb 2022 at 17:52

Resident said:
So running a red light isn't reckless?

No because 99.9% of cyclists will stop at the red light and check if there's any vehicles coming on the "green" side before deciding if it's safe to proceed or not

Rroff · 10 Feb 2022 at 17:55

I'd like to see visibility addressed - I had yet another encounter a couple of nights ago with a cyclist in the dark with dark clothing, no front light and only a dim flashing rear red one who wasn't using the road in an ideal manner either.

dlockers · 10 Feb 2022 at 17:59

Resident said:
So running a red light isn't reckless?

Think your lycra is a bit tight mate.

I'm all for red light runners, it's the clowns who blow onto roundabouts at 30mph so they don't have to stop and go again.

Malevolence · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:01

Rroff said:
I'd like to see visibility addressed - I had yet another encounter a couple of nights ago with a cyclist in the dark with dark clothing, no front light and only a dim flashing rear red one who wasn't using the road in an ideal manner either.

At night mine looks like a moving disco, two flashing whites on the front and a very bright pulsing red/blue on the back. And then there's my 1200 lumens front light too, which can also flash/strobe if needed. So yeah, I can be seen at night.

Resident · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:07

Minusorange said:
No because 99.9% of cyclists will stop at the red light and check if there's any vehicles coming on the "green" side before deciding if it's safe to proceed or not

But if I did that in my car or my work vehicle you'd be calling for my neck in a noose.

Richie · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:11

Minusorange said:
No because 99.9% of cyclists will stop at the red light and check if there's any vehicles coming on the "green" side before deciding if it's safe to proceed or not

Are you suggesting that, if it is safe to proceed, the cyclist should proceed even if that means the cyclist is going through a red light?

Minusorange · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:13

Richie said:
Are you suggesting that, if it is safe to proceed, the cyclist should proceed even if that means the cyclist is going through a red light?

Is it any different to getting off the bike and walking across the road, which would be perfectly fine no matter the colour of the lights ?

Resident said:
But if I did that in my car or my work vehicle you'd be calling for my neck in a noose.

Bit different for a vehicle, wouldn't call for your neck though

BUDFORCE · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:18

When I was living in New Zealand they have stricter laws on cyclists, you had to wear a helmet (and they would pull you over if not) and you'd get in some trouble if you got caught drunk riding a bike.

Saying that I remember getting on my pushbike after being in the pub and being so drunk I got about 5 feets before going over sideways, I had my helmet on though lol.

peterwalkley · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:20

Have we had the "they don't pay road tax" followed by the "its called vehicle excise duty" phase of the argument yet :rolleyes:

Hades · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:29

Minusorange said:
No because 99.9% of cyclists will stop at the red light and check if there's any vehicles coming on the "green" side before deciding if it's safe to proceed or not

Would it be OK for car drivers to do the same?

LeoK · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:36

In some countries cars are allowed through red lights. Right turn on red is allowed in California if you stop at the line first. Check. Giveway. Proceed when it’s clear.

My pet pee is adult cyclists / scooters / etc. on the pavement more then those that jump lights. I live up a hill. I’ve been hit three times by those coming too fast downhill.

mattyg · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:37

Minusorange said:
Is it any different to getting off the bike and walking across the road, which would be perfectly fine no matter the colour of the lights ?

Yes as they are then a pedestrian pushing a bike. Its an offence for ANY part of a Vehicle to cross the white line AFTER the light has turned Red.
I dont ever recall seeing that a non emergency vehicle can "Choose" to ignore that

Richie · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:49

Minusorange said:
Is it any different to getting off the bike and walking across the road, which would be perfectly fine no matter the colour of the lights ?

In theory, no, but the law states otherwise. You would require a law change to allow it. Regardless of arguments for this to be allowed it's illegal.

The only other issue with it is that, as humans do, cyclists will start pushing the boundaries of this and I don't feel it's right for a driver to possibly have to live with killing someone due to the dead person making an error in judgement and being hit by a vehicle.

Whilst the law stands at the moment, the chances are reduced as the majority of people (of all transport types) obey the red light

Diddums · 10 Feb 2022 at 18:59

Bout time too. If I can obey the rules, so can anyone else. I'm sick of cyclists flouting the law. Idiots.