I dunno the bibs and lycras still pretty upsetting
Cyclists apopletic about law being applied to them
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Soldato
Once had a cyclist pull up beside me and call me a *****, I had previously given him a wide berth because he seemed to be struggling to maintain stability. This was on the way to work one dark morning. People are weird and anyone who chooses to ride into work any distance in all weather on a winters morning, are weirder.
Soldato
That’s why I ride first thing in the morning at sun up so I don’t have to subject too many of the public to it
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I knew a lot of people who did, one bloke got a bit too old so got a motorbike, died not long after when someone pulled out on him.
Soldato
As a keen cyclist myself, and someone who lived in Germany for many years, it does pain me to see how bad UK cyclists are when it comes to paying attention to the law - especially in London. You can be in a cafe or restaurant and every red light period see 4 or 5 cyclists on a busy road zooming straight through without a single care to other road users. It definitely seems to be a UK specific problem.
Really? Personal attacks?
Genuine question tbh. Express readers fit one of those two.
Soldato
Good to see it being enforced, even if it happens nowhere near enough.
Just as one example of the state of things - out walking the dog last night, going one way asking a stretch of road had an electric scooter (with tiny, barely visible lights at ground level - who on earth designs these things, regardless of whether they should only be used on private land or not, they know that's not what happens in reality) coming towards us on the pavement hop off into oncoming traffic. Then coming back the other way one cyclist cruised slowly straight through some red lights with absolutely no lights on his bike, followed 30s later by a lycra-clad bike enjoyer going 20mph-ish who also went straight through. They were the only cyclists and scooter riders I saw while I was out. And pre-empting the 'but what about the car drivers' , I didn't see any of them going through red lights, or doing anything particularly dangerous.
I did see someone driving round on his phone while I was walking near my house last week (tacky personalised number plate, sporty BMW, seemed to go to the end of the road, loiter, then drive back again - drug dealer confirmed lol?) , which is obviously bad, but it seems pretty clear to me that the proportion of drivers blatantly breaking the rules like that is much lower. I specifically remember the guy on his phone because it is quite rare that I actually see drivers on their phone.
I like to try and stick to the highway code when I ride my bike, wish others would too.
Just as one example of the state of things - out walking the dog last night, going one way asking a stretch of road had an electric scooter (with tiny, barely visible lights at ground level - who on earth designs these things, regardless of whether they should only be used on private land or not, they know that's not what happens in reality) coming towards us on the pavement hop off into oncoming traffic. Then coming back the other way one cyclist cruised slowly straight through some red lights with absolutely no lights on his bike, followed 30s later by a lycra-clad bike enjoyer going 20mph-ish who also went straight through. They were the only cyclists and scooter riders I saw while I was out. And pre-empting the 'but what about the car drivers' , I didn't see any of them going through red lights, or doing anything particularly dangerous.
I did see someone driving round on his phone while I was walking near my house last week (tacky personalised number plate, sporty BMW, seemed to go to the end of the road, loiter, then drive back again - drug dealer confirmed lol?) , which is obviously bad, but it seems pretty clear to me that the proportion of drivers blatantly breaking the rules like that is much lower. I specifically remember the guy on his phone because it is quite rare that I actually see drivers on their phone.
I like to try and stick to the highway code when I ride my bike, wish others would too.
Soldato
Daily express .. Well, I suppose it's better then the mail, just.
I wonder how many cars went through on red in the 90 minutes, I'd put money on it being more than the cyclists otherwise the rag would have made a point of it.
I wonder how many cars went through on red in the 90 minutes, I'd put money on it being more than the cyclists otherwise the rag would have made a point of it.
Soldato
Sure but this would need to fall under dangerous or careless driving as the 1.5M gap is a guide and not a legal requirement therefore now law.
Fair point. Maybe the cyclists venting about it just now is because they didn't appear to be fined for it as much in the past. Now that the new Highway Code rules are currently flavour of the month, everyone is more aware/sensitive/triggered by them that they purposely look for fault from others i.e. driver more aware of cyclists being at fault and vice versa and so quicker to kick off
No, I don't read the Express. In fact it's one of a few news outlets I have "blocked" from my Google feed as it's all clickbait BS.
Soldato
I think you are right and it more than likely is the case. Cyclists do need to obey the law and hopefully it will ease the animosity so many drivers have for cyclists and improve their behaviour when driving around them. If fining more cyclists is a way to sort that out then fair play in my opinion.
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Happy for cyclists or any other road user breaking rules to be caught.
The objections people have had is with the publication by police of recent enforcement of these rules, targeting cyclists as it just fuels the distain towards them, as evidenced in this thread.
The objections people have had is with the publication by police of recent enforcement of these rules, targeting cyclists as it just fuels the distain towards them, as evidenced in this thread.
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There are a few people who upload videos on YouTube of walking, riding buses, etc. around London such as Wanderizm I watch some now and again out of nostalgia for when I lived there for a bit - always see plenty of cyclists just whizz through red lights without any attempt to stop or any care for other road users.
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I cycle through red on a pedestrian crossing if everyone has crossed, but stop at red on junctions. If I was sitting on red in my car at a pedestrian crossing and a cyclist cruised through, I'd probably tut at them 
Even cyclists hate cyclists!
Even cyclists hate cyclists!
Soldato
Ah, the old cyclists are not also drivers thing?
I cycle (5 bikes)
I drive (2 cars)
I walk (2 legs)
Bad cyclists are also likely to be bad drivers. Bad behaviour on the road is bad.
I cycle (5 bikes)
I drive (2 cars)
I walk (2 legs)
Bad cyclists are also likely to be bad drivers. Bad behaviour on the road is bad.
If you’re really serious about laying money out on a bet that more cars went through one particular set of traffic lights in 90 minutes than cyclists did, then you sound like the kind of person who would be interested in buying the bridge across the Thames in London that I have for sale.
Soldato
Bring on the zero tolerance policing on this lot. Many cyclists have zero regard for the highway code / public highway laws.
I guess the sanctimonious two wheelers will be ditching the go pros now to avoid self incrimination.
I guess the sanctimonious two wheelers will be ditching the go pros now to avoid self incrimination.
