Cyclists apopletic about law being applied to them

Foghorn Leghorn said:
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Not at all, you sounded like you'd got out the wrong side of the bed this morning.
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Really? For strongly disagreeing with you that more cars ran the same red light than cycles in 90 minutes?
I would put my house on the line that more bikes ran the red in 90 minutes than cars.
You interested in buying that bridge? I don’t want time wasters.

LeoK said:
In some countries cars are allowed through red lights. Right turn on red is allowed in California if you stop at the line first. Check. Giveway. Proceed when it’s clear.

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It’s allowed in all states

All 50 states, the District of Columbia, Guam, and Puerto Rico have allowed right turns on red since 1980, except where prohibited by a sign or where right turns are controlled by dedicated traffic lights. (The last state with a right-on-red ban, Massachusetts, ended its ban on January 1, 1980.)

uvarvu said:
I presume that all who jumped the lights were spoken to regardless of mode of transport. I have no issue with this if that's the case (I cycle and drive).
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If I thought that being “spoken to” was the worst that I could expect, I’d probably run a few myself.

Liefrich said:
There seems to be a correlation between the posters that hate cyclists, Muslims, anything "foreign" and are outlandishly pro-Brexit. Such small-minded individuals.
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Where do I fit in?
I have a strong dislike for scofflaw cyclists, I’m ambivalent about Muslims, I love most things “foreign”, in fact I try to spend as much time as possible out of U.K. in foreign lands, and I voted remain as I wanted to keep the easy entrance to France and Germany, plus a blind man could see that the pound would fall through the floor if we left Europe.
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I once watched (not long ago) about 30 cyclists all get pulled at the bank junction in London at the same time. Every last one of them got a ticket... made my day :cry:

Cyclists just don't seem to care about the lights at that junction and this day was the day where the old bill were sitting waiting for it!
 
Jean-F said:
Really? For strongly disagreeing with you that more cars ran the same red light than cycles in 90 minutes?
I would put my house on the line that more bikes ran the red in 90 minutes than cars.
You interested in buying that bridge? I don’t want time wasters.
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Can I cycle across it? Scratch that, it doesn't matter, I'll cycle across it anyway. When can you deliver?
 
Vince said:
I once watched (not long ago) about 30 cyclists all get pulled at the bank junction in London at the same time. Every last one of them got a ticket... made my day :cry:

Cyclists just don't seem to care about the lights at that junction and this day was the day where the old bill were sitting waiting for it!
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Why on earth did any of them stop? Just keep going.
 
Foghorn Leghorn said:
Why on earth did any of them stop? Just keep going.
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Police were at all 5 junctions, they went through and got stopped at the junction they were heading to... pretty well planned out operation tbh. Plus I have nothing against cyclists but that junction gets abused by them on the regular. Been a couple of times ive almost been mowed down there.
 
Anecdotal but when I'm out driving I see a small number of cars push it on the lights change with maybe the odd one go through on red but only about 1 car if that a day which goes through a light which has been red for awhile (I have a very poor view of that - even 1 is too much). If it is a nicer day with the sun out and the cyclists come out I'll easily see 5-6 cyclists in a day go through a red well after it has changed, often with minimal care.
 
You feel like an idiot on a bicycle sitting watching a red light when you can clearly see no cars coming in any direction.

I never jumped them but often I thought about just getting off the bike and walking across the road as a pedestrian to save time...

I guess it depends where the red light is to how safe it is, during offpeak hours they might as well be stop, look both ways, if it's clear go.

I bet a lot of car drivers feel the same way

Quartz said:
I expect that many cyclists have limited knowledge of either. You don't need to pass any test to cycle on a road.
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don't you learn it at school? I know I did way back in the 90s.


yes I'm aware it gets updated but mostly it's in the news when anything happens to it anyway
 
  • Almost a third of people (30%) who held a driving licence also cycled.
  • Over four-fifths (83%) of people aged 18 years+ who cycled held a driving licence and drove.
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So to suggest that cyclists don't understand the 'rules of the road' is, statistically, 'wrong'.
 
ODuffer said:
Exactly. I'm pretty sure I'd be fined driving in a cycle lane, fine cyclists not riding in the cycle lane (if available).
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This annoys me on both sides of the argument. I see cyclists riding in the road all the time when there's a perfectly serviceable cycle lane next to them, but then I also cycle every day and there are some stretches and junctions which are so crap it makes me wonder how it got past the multitude of tests and approvals to get to the point of being constructed.
 
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