Cyclists on pavements, do police really care?

The amount of damage a cyclist can do to a car is insignificant when compared to the damage a car can do. That's why there is no compulsory insurance for cyclists as the cost/benefit ratio doesn't make it viable. It's the same reason why horses and pedestrians don't need compulsory insurance to use the roads (and it can be argued that a horse can do more damage than a cyclist).

However, cyclists are free to arrange thier own insurance if they want to.

bang on!
 
spoke to a cyclist on another forum where they said they'd hit 6 pedestrians while riding on the pavement and blamed the pedestrians for not being aware.

I said if they're riding on the pavement why aren't they doing an appropriate speed wher they can stop safely and using their bell to warn people who may step into their path as they aren't expecting a bicycle to come up behind them.

their response?


"bells arnt a legal requirement"


this is why a lot of people ahte them, the attitude of its never their fault.
 
The amount of damage a cyclist can do to a car is insignificant when compared to the damage a car can do. That's why there is no compulsory insurance for cyclists as the cost/benefit ratio doesn't make it viable. It's the same reason why horses and pedestrians don't need compulsory insurance to use the roads (and it can be argued that a horse can do more damage than a cyclist).

However, cyclists are free to arrange thier own insurance if they want to.

how much does it cost to have a panel restored? dents pulled, paint resprayed?

few hundred quid at least?


and if a cyclist hits a motorcyclist and knocks him off?

for pretty much every sports bike that's an instant write off.
 
People often confuse insurance with liability. Whether somebody is insured or not has zero affect on whether they're liable for damages or not. If a cyclist causes damage through their negligence and fault you're perfectly able to pursue damages against them.

but its hard to identify them...
 
spoke to a cyclist on another forum where they said they'd hit 6 pedestrians while riding on the pavement and blamed the pedestrians for not being aware.

I said if they're riding on the pavement why aren't they doing an appropriate speed wher they can stop safely and using their bell to warn people who may step into their path as they aren't expecting a bicycle to come up behind them.

their response?


"bells arnt a legal requirement"


this is why a lot of people ahte them, the attitude of its never their fault.
I always slow down to about 5mph when over taking peds, always stop pedalling so they can hear my noisy freewheel and don't get a shock.

I also have a bell but a lot of people are ignorant and ignore it and just carry on as if they didn't hear it....
it's loud as hell to

Every bike sold in the UK comes with a bell as a legal requirement or they aren't allowed to sell the bike? same for reflectors afaik.

I took my reflectors off don't see the point in them when you have lights flashing but the bell stays.

If I hit a ped on a cycle path then I'd say it was my fault for not looking where I was going as the faster method of transport the blame should surely be with me? (almost had a guy walk into my bike once though when I stopped waiting for a gap in the peds because they all have to walk side by side)

same as I'd hope cars and vans treat me on the road with a bit of respect and a wide birth like the highway code states.

If I can feel the wind from your car then your not leaving enough room!
 
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I had one of these lycra clad lunatics leave a scratch, down to the metal, from my boot to my front wing and then racially abuse me as I tried to catch him. Guess who had to pay for the respray, and here's a clue - it wasn't the ****ing cyclist.
 
Wouldn't it be criminal damage and an offence?
cyclists are allowed to leave the scene of an accident ? I'm assuming no?

Hate those ruthless lycra wearing hippies.
 
How do people manage to catch other criminals who you know...don't have licence plates!

a mixture of cctv and there photo distributed by the police I'd imagine


If the police clamped down on the not so good cyclists the rest of us law abiding cyclists would be better off imo
 
spoke to a cyclist on another forum where they said they'd hit 6 pedestrians while riding on the pavement and blamed the pedestrians for not being aware.

I said if they're riding on the pavement why aren't they doing an appropriate speed wher they can stop safely and using their bell to warn people who may step into their path as they aren't expecting a bicycle to come up behind them.

their response?


"bells arnt a legal requirement"


this is why a lot of people ahte them, the attitude of its never their fault.

You do get A-hole cyclists, and there's no excuse for belting down a pavement or shared path when people are walking on it.
When I feel I need to ride on the pavement, it's very slow if people are about.

Same with cars, and I drive many more miles than I cycle, there's that 10% of society who just don't care and believe everyone else should move for them.

You even see it in busy supermarkets where people leave their trollies across an isle without any thought for any one else.

It's not a car/bike/pedestrian/trolley thing, it's just a certain percentage of society who are self entitled and ignorant.
 
a mixture of cctv and there photo distributed by the police I'd imagine


If the police clamped down on the not so good cyclists the rest of us law abiding cyclists would be better off imo

yea but they must be on cctv dozens of times, probably use the same route daily if they are commuters.

guess they don't get reported or the police can't be bothered

How do people manage to catch other criminals who you know...don't have licence plates!


i find it quite amusing you think the police will go to the lengths of checking CCTV and distributing photographs for someone scratching a car.

you get a crime number and sent on your way.

I couldn't even get them to check CCTV in the local shops when my motorcycle was stolen.
 
sorry I forgot the police only interested in quick results and not actual policing

give me a few hours, access to cctv and a police social media account and I'd get dozens of dodgy cyclists arrested easily.
They put CCTV photos in the local news paper for other crap crimes


it wouldn't take much effort to dissuade renegade cyclists from taking risks and breaking the law if they knew the police would do something about it


In newcastle the police seem to care more about making it look like they are doing something.

someone gets raped in a park oh well do a few patrols yea great.
I've been in the park at 1-3am seen the police patrol go around the outer edge paths and not even notice I'm in the park! they are useless doing as little as they can be bothered.


someone gets stabbed in newcastle city centre and now we have knife scanners being carried by some police.

yea awesome just more visual policing and not any results
 
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sorry I forgot the police only interested in quick results and not actual policing

give me a few hours, access to cctv and a police social media account and I'd get dozens of dodgy cyclists arrested easily.


They put CCTV photos in the local news paper for other crap crimes

yep least if they had a plate on them they could be quickly identified.

id personally like top see it 16 pavement, 16+ plate some insurance and ride on the road.

would be a fuss at first but after a year it would just be the norm.

cyclists who don't have mirrors or do a shoulder check before changing lanes or turning right vscare the **** out of me though


it wouldn't take much effort to dissuade renegade cyclists from taking risks and breaking the law if they knew the police would do something about it

but they wont :p
 
Only today I saw a car go past a parked car on a narrow lane and scratch it pretty badly. Guess what, they drove off.

In London I believe the current stat is that in accidents where a pedestrian or cyclist is killed or seriously injured something like 20-25% are hit and runs. Goes to show really that licence plates and insurance mean very little.

The simple fact is that too many people on whatever mode of transport care about no one other than number one and the people that should be dealing with that type of person (the police) aren't.

On a commute into London it is impossible to not see at least one cyclist, car driver and motorcyclist break the law - normally multiple of each. At the same time you are lucky to see one police car or motorbike.


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