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Didn't enoy this film, far too contrived, and the long musical periods came off as try-hard. The producer suddenly being a psycho killer was just ridiculous. And I didn't understand how in the beginning he seemed to fail the job, since the cops were right on his tail and he just parked in the stadium and walked out leaving the other 2 guys with bags of stolen stuff, so how did they get away? It didn't sell him as a pro getaway driver. The gore was over the top IMO and the uncomfortable silences were silly.

And no I don't enjoy usual hollywood garbage like Transformers (haven't even seen the 3rd one. Unfortunately I saw the first 2).
 
RationalGaze said:
Didn't enoy this film, far too contrived, and the long musical periods came off as try-hard. The producer suddenly being a psycho killer was just ridiculous. And I didn't understand how in the beginning he seemed to fail the job, since the cops were right on his tail and he just parked in the stadium and walked out leaving the other 2 guys with bags of stolen stuff, so how did they get away? It didn't sell him as a pro getaway driver. The gore was over the top IMO and the uncomfortable silences were silly.

And no I don't enjoy usual hollywood garbage like Transformers (haven't even seen the 3rd one. Unfortunately I saw the first 2).
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Maybe they got away, maybe they didn't. The film explained it, he was paid to drive within a five minute window, they wasted time so he had less time to make the getaway.

Seeing a pattern here about attention spans.
 
Tombo said:
Maybe they got away, maybe they didn't. The film explained it, he was paid to drive within a five minute window, they wasted time so he had less time to make the getaway.

Seeing a pattern here about attention spans.
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Yes I understand it was left open as to whether or not they escaped, but my question is what is the intent of the scene if he has failed the job. It makes him look like a bad driver. And yes I already understood his little 5 minute window speech, so save your attention span nonsense. The director stated that the driver was supposed to be a hero, and this opening scene made him look bad and was a real anti-climax for the getaway scene.
 
He was supposed to get those guys away safely, so there was all that build up and cat and mouse with him hiding from the cops, and then eventually he couldn't lose them and just did his backup plan of dumping the car in a crowded place and walking away with a cap on. So although he got away (and perhaps the other guys did), he didn't exactly execute the getaway very smoothly. I doubt the other guys wanted to be left in a parking lot with the cops right on them and having to run away with big duffel bags filled with stolen goods.
 
RationalGaze said:
He was supposed to get those guys away safely, so there was all that build up and cat and mouse with him hiding from the cops, and then eventually he couldn't lose them and just did his backup plan of dumping the car in a crowded place and walking away with a cap on. So although he got away (and perhaps the other guys did), he didn't exactly execute the getaway very smoothly. I doubt the other guys wanted to be left in a parking lot with the cops right on them and having to run away with big duffel bags filled with stolen goods.
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But thats not the point of the scene, it isnt anything to really do with his driving but more explaining the characters mentality as shown by his 5 minute speech and what happens when you break that code. I dont understand why people cant see beyond the obvious - this isnt the Transporter...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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RationalGaze said:
He was supposed to get those guys away safely, so there was all that build up and cat and mouse with him hiding from the cops, and then eventually he couldn't lose them and just did his backup plan of dumping the car in a crowded place and walking away with a cap on. So although he got away (and perhaps the other guys did), he didn't exactly execute the getaway very smoothly. I doubt the other guys wanted to be left in a parking lot with the cops right on them and having to run away with big duffel bags filled with stolen goods.
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My view:
That was his plan, that's why he was listening to the game on the radio so that he could plan it down to a 'T' - he arrived in the car park just as the game finished and put his cap on (which was the home team's cap) so that he could mingle with the crowd. He makes it perfectly clear how long they have him for and gives them that time - how they get away after that period is entirely up to them!
 
Putty said:
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That was his plan, that's why he was listening to the game on the radio so that he could plan it down to a 'T' - he arrived in the car park just as the game finished and put his cap on (which was the home team's cap) so that he could mingle with the crowd. He makes it perfectly clear how long they have him for and gives them that time - how they get away after that period is entirely up to them!
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Thanks, I also remember him listening to the game, and I when he dumped the car there I assumed it was his backup plan, but like you say, if he was listening to it in the first place, then the more likely scenario is that it was always his plan to drive the guys there and leave the car there even without cops.
 
ps3ud0 said:
Not really, seeing further events of him being a getaway driver wouldnt add anything to the story exposition it still would be random event - 'job' - random event - just end up being a time filler.

How would that make it any better if thats what you think anyway?
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Driver is the middle act of a much better film.
 
ps3ud0 said:
Not really, seeing further events of him being a getaway driver wouldnt add anything to the story exposition it still would be random event - 'job' - random event - just end up being a time filler.

How would that make it any better if thats what you think anyway?
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Drive is the middle act of a much better film.
 
atpbx said:
Driver is the middle act of a much better film.
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No its not, its far more a very stripped, economical film that doesnt adhere to mainstream exposition/transitions to get its story/characterisation across. Where one film would use several scenes to communicate movement in the story this uses one and where it would use dialogue, this for the main protagonist often uses none.

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
How many people here that went into the film with pre-conceived ideas and came out disappointed have even heard of Nicholas Winding-Refn? How many have seen the Pusher films, or Bronson, or Valhalla Rising?

This isn't a Gosling-vehicle. It's a carefully constructed work of art by an extremely talented filmmaker.
 
Just watched this on bluray and I was very impressed! I thought it was going to be like Transporter or something but it so wasn't. The decisions the director made with this film towards telling the story, the style of the scenes and the development (or more accurately the unveiling) of 'the Driver' character is just genius. A must watch!
 
Gustov said:
Yes, it was a fact...that is was an 'artsy fartsy pos'

I love the way it's deemed fine to slate it as an artsy pos but the second someone criticizes conventional hollywood narratives with predictable endings it all comes down to 'EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION'

I've seen Drive 5 times. It's my film of 2011, the acting is brilliant, the cinematography is stunning and the soundtrack is sublime. Great casting all round too.

For the record, this wasn't an artsy film, your brain has just been warped from years and years of watching the same predictable tripe that when something of quaity hits you smack bang in the face, you call it an 'artsy pos'...You want Artsy? Go watch Tree of Life.

That and your name is arknor. I'm fed up with the 'everyone's entitled to their own opinion' BS. You might not have enjoyed the film but it's a fantastic bit of film production.

RAAAAAAAAGE (Yes I work in the film industry and have worked very closely on this title and both cinema and DVD release...)
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Exactly what role do you have in the film industry? More specifically what did you do for this particular movie?

Believe it or not - not everyone that disliked this film just 'didn't get it' or are too dumb to understand it......I understood completely what the film was 'trying' to achieve and yet I still thought it was an appalling film. Please don't think this is a clever film because it is far from it.

The good....I liked some of the cinematography behind it.
The bad....the acting by most of the cast.
The terribad....the plot that was almost completely unexplained, paper thin and as pointless as a chocolate tea pot.

If people liked the film then that's cool, everyone has their own opinion and taste. But this film was NOT a highly intellectual film that only the cinema elite can 'understand the beauty of' so please kindly remove yourself from your high horse. ;)
 
Lima said:
Please don't think this is a clever film because it is far from it.

The good....I liked some of the cinematography behind it.
The bad....the acting by most of the cast.
The terribad....the plot that was almost completely unexplained, paper thin and as pointless as a chocolate tea pot.

If people liked the film then that's cool, everyone has their own opinion and taste. But this film was NOT a highly intellectual film that only the cinema elite can 'understand the beauty of' so please kindly remove yourself from your high horse. ;)
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As pointless as a chocolate tea pot? Nice analogy you've got going there. The plot might have been simple but it wasn't 'pointless', it served the narrative really well.

So you're asking me to be open minded and understand that not everyone is going to like the film and then tell me what to think by saying 'Please don't think this is a clever film because it is far from it' This is also known as double standards.

If you would have read my post you would have noticed I was arguing Drive isn't particularly 'artsy' It's a relatively simple story executed brilliantly. How you can call the film appalling is beyond me. No the plot isn't mind-blowing but the film has SO much going for it. In terms of cinematography, the colors used throughout, the direction, the acting, the pacing, the soundtrack, the sound production, the editing...I could go on.

I understand not enjoying the film but to call it appalling is just ludicrous. Empire, Digital Spy, Shortlist, Filmoria and many other sites named it their film of the year. We all have opinions but some people just have bad taste in films.
 
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I have to agree with Gustov.

Calling Drive 'appalling' is like calling Clash of the Titans, or Gigli a masterpiece of the last 100 years.

You may not like it, but that does not mean Drive is horrendous. Far from it.
 
Buster2312 said:
Just watched this on bluray and I was very impressed! I thought it was going to be like Transporter or something but it so wasn't. The decisions the director made with this film towards telling the story, the style of the scenes and the development (or more accurately the unveiling) of 'the Driver' character is just genius. A must watch!
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Just watched it now and that's exactly what i had in mind. Was pleasantly surprised with it being completely different.

Very very good film :)
 
Lima said:
The good....I liked some of the cinematography behind it.
The bad....the acting by most of the cast.
The terribad....the plot that was almost completely unexplained, paper thin and as pointless as a chocolate tea pot.

If people liked the film then that's cool, everyone has their own opinion and taste. But this film was NOT a highly intellectual film that only the cinema elite can 'understand the beauty of' so please kindly remove yourself from your high horse. ;)
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The acting was NOT bad, the plot was COMPLETELY explained.
Being light on plot and short and not filling it out doesn't make it unexplained.

As for being pointless, well, all films are "pointless", things happen to people, that's it, who cares what, they aren't real people. It's not more pointless than any other film you could name.
 
I'm glad we can all conclude Lima was talking ****.

Just for reference, I enjoyed Drive a lot more 2nd time round. Most probably because of being able to recognize the soundtrack.

I had 2 copies of the DVD prior to release but wanted the steel book too :p

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