D600 with full fat AF system!

Yeah those specs hardly fill me with hope. I would like to know how many pictures you have in your catalogue shot faster than 1/4000 though. Just out of curiosity :)

Don't know if you can count them using LR (I couldn't), but below is just from 1 wedding (and there were actually allot more than this). Exposure times were between 1/4000 - 1/8000 and some needed recovery in LR.

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He also exposes to the left which is requiring a faster shutter speed than normal (;)) people.

As well as other wedding tog's like Brett Harkness etc.

It's a compromise with many different aspects factoring in the equation depending on what gear your using, but if you understand your gear fully, then you can make better real world decisions in order to get the results you want, instead of just doing what someone else is doing.
 
Why do you want to ETTL, do you really just want to guarantee preserving the highlights at the cost of decreased DR and tonality ith increased noise? Can you not use ND grad filters and ETTR, maximizing IQ?

I just do whatever works well for me in practice.

I meter for skin tone. Lighter materials with higher reflectivity however will blow out, even if the light hitting it is the same intensity as the light hitting skin tone.

If I meter on an eye that is in shadow, depending on the contrast the light side will likely be blown out. The highlights in the dress will certainly be blow out.

At a wedding I don't have time for 'redo's, it's not always possible either, most of the time if you miss a moment then that's it.. it's gone.. do better next time.

Not all camera's behave the same or have the same IQ. So to issue a blanket statement of always ETTR is foolish and will likely even be detrimental to the people who don't have noise/banding issues.

ETTR is fine in theory in a controlled environment where you have time to monitor your histogram and retake the shot if needed. It is particularly useful if banding/noise is an issue. The downside is you have to keep monitoring the histogram which distracts focus from what your trying to achieve, it means your much more likely to blow out highlights, particularly in run and gun situations in challenging light.

For me ETTL is much more practical in the 'real world'. The extra highlight recovery comes in very handy. I'm not saying I never want to blow out highlights, just that I would rather have the choice in post.
Pushing exposure 2/3's of a stop results in no perceptible banding issues. Noise on a FF D700 is very well controlled, so another non issue.

If I was shooting with a body that was more prone to Chroma noise/banding in the shadows, then ETTR would be a more compelling option in many more circumstances. However as I don't suffer from this type of image degradation (at least with the small amount I push exposure) ETTL offers more advantage than ETTR.

Now with the latest Exmor sensors, ETTR should be very seldom of benefit imo.
 
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It would be interesting to know if Sony would contractually be allowed?
I'm assuming Nikon and Sony would have a cross patent co-operation/agreement that could make things a little complicated?

Otherwise I can't understand why Canon isn't already rocking a D800 sensor...
 
D600 sales are pretty high on Amazon US:
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...ctronics/3017941/ref=zg_bs_nav_e_4_2476680011

Caveats: amazon is just a single retailer, rank doesn't indicated differences in sales figures, US prices are much better than in the UK, e.g. D600 is $900 cheap than the D800 for a FF camera with similar sensor performance.

Yeh but it's a major retailer, large enough to at least show a fairly obvious trend in the northern American market.
Sales positions of the D800 & 5Diii haven't changed much since their release.
By the looks of it Canon's high end market is losing market-share pretty severely.
 
I'd love to know the actual figures, the cynic in me has always seen sales charts from retailers as just advertising the products they want to.

The only figures I've seen for the first half of this year is for Japan, and there was no real change in market share. They've always been pretty different to western trends though.

I think I've just about got over my latest case of wanting to see if the grass is greener... If I sell the 1Ds2, 7D and X100 I can get a 5D3... :eek:

Overall market share isn't going to change much, not with Canon pumping out no end of 550D's 600D's 650D's 60D's etc.
I remember looking at the amazon list a long time ago when it was the D700 Vs 5Dii. The 5D's position was way higher, the D700 barely got a look in.

I think video helped sales, but mainly I think megapickles sells camera's :confused:
 
Whilst the D800 definitely has the edge in DR and resolution I'm not that a good a photographer to really see it make any appreciable difference to what I do. Shots where I could use the nice clean shadows after pushing them a few stops are few and far between to really make a D800 a must have for me.

If you was able to dial in some negative exposure bias without an IQ penalty, you wouldn't have blown out that brides dress.
To avoid the pictures looking a little under exposed on the LCD, just increase the brightness. I haven't tested it, but I think it may also help viewing the LCD in bright weather also.

When importing the files in LR, have it set automatically to give them a slight exposure boost.
 
The D800 is pretty much two cameras in one due to having a 15mp DX mode but with vastly better DR and ISO performance than the D300s and a higher resolution to boot. The only downside to the D800 is that its reportedly quite an unforgiving camera to use unless you use VR/OS/IS lenses as the sensor ends up resolving any minute problem in the image.

If your getting the extra reach by cropping the D800 to match the D7000 (rather than using a longer lens to get the same FOV), then using a D800 will be no different/harder than using a D7000 in terms of getting IQ sharp at pixel level.
 
Nikon d600 down to 1600 quid on amazon. Seems like Nikon uk realized listened to the public and cut the prices drastically.

That puts it at a clean 200 pounds cheaper than the canon 6d currently on amazon. The 6d must surely shift to the 1300-1400 mark.

Not a bad price now, I guess they didn't want the same thing to happen as with the D800 where they undervalued it and then raised prices on people.

I still expect prices to creep towards £1400 over the coming months once supply is plentiful.
 
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