D800 official release

jonneymendoza said:
How much MP will be apparent when you crop a typical 36mp shot to a 1.6 crop?
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It's 16mp in dx mode (1.5x crop)

Ksanti said:
Not at all. The crop cameras are perfectly serviceable, the older 5Ds and 1DSs provide a much cheaper entry point to full frame photography than exists on Nikon (those Kodak ones don't count) and while the 5D2 isn't a high ISO beast, just look at its userbase; it's been a massive success. They lack somewhat in the high ISO stakes at the moment, but this D800 announcement should hardly be the camera that makes you moan about that.
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Wait and see first, we assume the high ISO will suffer but if it's as good as even the d300s at full mp it will look awesome if you down sample a bit
 
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UK pricing up

D800 is £2,399.95
D800E is £2,689.95

and the grip is £379.95


.. ouch, note to self: when doing $ to £ conversion, don't forget to add VAT
 
Ksanti said:
All the samples for the E are ISO 100 or 200, and all the samples for the standard D800 are ISO 640 and below. Not very promising.
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That's why I stated low ISO. While ISO performance clearly isn't it's strongest point, I highly doubt that it won't be as good as the D700, personally I'm will to bet by the time the images has been downsized to 12mp, that it's a stop or so better.
I also like the sound of 'high signal to noise' ratio, so hopefully should be able to push and pull the images just as much as a D7000.
 
"Nikon has said that the noise performance equals that of the 12.1 megapixel full-frame D700 despite the sensor including exactly 3x as many pixels. This seems like quite a bold claim, however this is explained by the camera sensor being several years newer, than the D700 sensor, which was originally announced with the Nikon D700 in 2008. Until we've been able to test a full production camera we will not be able to give our full verdict, but look forward to seeing if these bold claims are warranted. From the example images we saw images looked very good despite being from a pre-production camera."

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/nikon-d800-d800e-digital-slr-hands-on-review-18420
 
An Exception said:
"Nikon has said that the noise performance equals that of the 12.1 megapixel full-frame D700 despite the sensor including exactly 3x as many pixels. This seems like quite a bold claim, however this is explained by the camera sensor being several years newer, than the D700 sensor, which was originally announced with the Nikon D700 in 2008. Until we've been able to test a full production camera we will not be able to give our full verdict, but look forward to seeing if these bold claims are warranted. From the example images we saw images looked very good despite being from a pre-production camera."

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/nikon-d800-d800e-digital-slr-hands-on-review-18420
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It is not hard to understand. 3x the resolution and equal noise would mean an improvement in technology of around than 1.5 stops. The Nikon D3s improved sensitivity compared to the D3/D700 of about 1 to 1.3 stops. The Nikon D4s supposedly around 1- 1.3 stops above the D3s. Therefore, one could expect the technology in the D800 sensor to have 2-2.6 stops better performance than the original D700 sensor, so a 1.5 stop improvement is about what can be expected at least.

What is claimed is that a D800 image at ISO6400 looks the same as the D700 at ISO 6400, and if the D800 is sampled down to 12MP then it will be equivalent to the D700 at ISO 2000 roughly. In other words ISO 6400 images should be perfectly usable when properly exposed and when not printed to billboard size images (and if you are printing at billboard size images then the D800 is just the camera you need, under appropriate lighting or tripod of course).
 
Ksanti said:
All the samples for the E are ISO 100 or 200, and all the samples for the standard D800 are ISO 640 and below. Not very promising.
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No camera manufacturer ever releases high ISO images at launch time.

I wouldn't worry too much. At the worst, the D800 sensor will be the D7k sensor enlarged to full frame gaining about 1.5stops in the process, the D7K is no slouch at all.

Then there maybe further improvements in technology- Nikon is renowned for tweaking sensors (D3s vs D3), or improvements brought about because this is a higher end camera and Nikon pay put in high-end amplifiers etc.


Still, I am not going to buy one until I have seen some ISO 6400 shots.
 
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The 3D color matrix meter III, the improved auto focus with more cross sensors, additional dynamic range, and the improved AF performance in low light are just a few features that are glaring improvements. From a focus standpoint, I found it hard to believe there could be improvements to the D3S focus system. But, this camera does focus faster and will allow me to make pictures I couldn't make before.
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Some info floating around, like the above, mentioning that the AF is better than the D3s. It is important to remember that just because Nikon kept with the same 51-point AF layout as the D700 doesn't mean that it can't have been tweaked and improved. For reference sake the D700 already had AF abilities that more or less matched the Nikon D3 and Canon 1DMK(s)III, so even if no improvements were made it would be more than adaquate for a majority of people. if it has been imrpoved then it will be sufficient for everyone except the most hard-core extreme sports photographers working in a dudgeon shooting basketball etc., the kind of people who will own a Nikon D4 and a 200mm f/2.0 VR and still complain at the light.
 
What is also a key feature for the video fans is the ability to record uncompressed Raw video output through HDMI.

This is a key ability for use by pros who will post-edit the video and will want to compress at the final output stage.
 
Sorry for the spamming...

Thom Hogan has a very detailed discussion, but no hands on experience yet:

http://bythom.com/d800intro.htm


Seems like the D800 is mostly a D4 in a smaller lighter body but with a monstrous 36Mp sensor, and a much friendlier price tag. Hopefully some more hands on testing will verify the AF and handling.

Prior to release some people were worried that the D800 will lack what made the D700 special, i.e. a pro-grade D3 in a smaller, lighter, cheaper but still pro-grade body. D80 doesn't seem to have changed that winning recipe, but has changed the sensor radically. This pushes the the D800 in to the lime light for landscape and fashion shooters, but should also entice wildlife photographers, getting more pixels on the duck/bear/wolf. The D800 should make a very good DX camera actually.

Price also seems reasonable and in-line with the D700 launch prices (accepting inflation and some currency changes), once the first price drop comes about I will be very interested.


the thing is my new Nikon 24-70 2.8 probably is no use on the D800 to get close to the theoretical 36MP and I will need to get some more primes.
 
as much as I want the camera, I really want the video but am thinking it would just be cheaper to get a 5dmk2 and adapter to use nikon lenses. :(
 
AHarvey said:
as much as I want the camera, I really want the video but am thinking it would just be cheaper to get a 5dmk2 and adapter to use nikon lenses. :(
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Is it really cheaper or a better solution?

D700 for pictures
5Dii for Video

Or
D800 - Better pictures & video

Why do you need video btw, are you incorporating that into weddings now?
 
Video is something I've been interested in trying out now but couldn't afford the D3s + flashes, lenses, etc. For family stuff and incorporating in to wedding packages etc.

I need a backup camera to go along side the D700 for weddings etc, as the current one is a basic DSLR.

It really just comes down to cost at the moment as I am only a weekend warrior, I just like to do things to a pro level so that's pro costs on WW pay :p
 
AHarvey said:
as much as I want the camera, I really want the video but am thinking it would just be cheaper to get a 5dmk2 and adapter to use nikon lenses. :(
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If you really want a camera for video I wouldn't look at the 5MKII.

For starters, the D800 has many important features that would very useful, such as raw uncompressed output, headphone and audio level monitoring, full manual control of shutter speed/aperture/ISO, etc.

But then if you are really interested in a video camera then perhaps look at buying a video camera?
 
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