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That is quite staggering. I knew the DR difference was quite large although I didn't realise the banding and shadow noise was as obvious as that at base ISO values on the 5d3.
This is somewhat off topic, however, the Sony 135mm f1.8 does look pretty good. I can only hope that Nikon brings something special to the table to replace the already quite unique 135mm DC.
I know aesthetics don't matter however, I've always thought some of the Sony lenses look very good.
To the OP, enjoy the new camera. You're lucky to have it.
Unfortunately I got a call from John Lewis today to say that Nikon couldn't tell them when to expect a delivery at this point as they are repackaging all the current ones due to a battery issue.
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Interesting how moire isn't affecting the D800 in that example, yet it shows on the 5diii. They say it must have a stronger aa filter, but as the d800 looks to be very slightly sharper, I think the real reason is actually due to the increased resolution, which as we know reduces the moire effect.
It will be interesting to see if the 'E' has comparable moire artefacts as the 5d...
Yeah, as I've said before I wouldn't be surprised if moire isn't the big problem some think it will be with the D800E. Interesting that Fred found the 14-24 soft at the edges on the D800, more people are mentioning the live view issues as well. I have faint memories of live view... it's not something I worry about on the 1Ds2! 
Moire is generally not a problem, if it was then MF users would be complaining all the time, and all the studio/fashion MF users are the ones most likely to experience Moire.
Hopefully LR has/will get a good moire reduction tool for those odd photos (preferably a a brush to apply local correction).
Apparently the AA filter on the non-E is very weak so has a tendency to show a little moire anyway.
Hopefully LR has/will get a good moire reduction tool for those odd photos (preferably a a brush to apply local correction).
Apparently the AA filter on the non-E is very weak so has a tendency to show a little moire anyway.
one day with the 800e
Most impressed with its low light ability, very little noise compared to a d300
Focusing is very critical missed a few shots due to the wrong focus point.
Has a tilt sensor built in ( found it in the menu but not hot to use it in practice)
Need to find out how the hdr mode works .
Detail and colour depth is outstanding.
Even stills from the video are impressive.
Not been dissapointed with the 28-300 once stopped down a bit
( iso 2000 is useable but so is 6400 ! )
Any questions just ask .
Most impressed with its low light ability, very little noise compared to a d300
Focusing is very critical missed a few shots due to the wrong focus point.
Has a tilt sensor built in ( found it in the menu but not hot to use it in practice)
Need to find out how the hdr mode works .
Detail and colour depth is outstanding.
Even stills from the video are impressive.
Not been dissapointed with the 28-300 once stopped down a bit
( iso 2000 is useable but so is 6400 ! )
Any questions just ask .
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^^^
Congrats Peter, it's currently my dream camera, just curious, is the 28-300 your only Nikon lens atm?
Congrats Peter, it's currently my dream camera, just curious, is the 28-300 your only Nikon lens atm?
Interesting! So I'm trying to upgrade from a D300 myself. On the D300, I'm happy with ISO 800 without any noise reduction, but then need it thereafter up to a maximum satisfiable usable ISO of 1600. With this in mind, what D800(E) ISO would you say has equivalent noise levels to the D300?
^^ Do you want it it tested at the same resolution as the D300 for a fair test?
Anyway, you might find this useful:
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Ca...rand2)/Nikon/(appareil3)/440|0/(brand3)/Nikon
Got to measurements, SNR 18%
The X axis is what DXO measured the true ISO to be, click on the dots tells you what th camera stated ISO was at that point. The Y axis is the signal to noise ratio, the higher the SNR the less noise. Clearly you can see the D800 is much better, to find out how much better you can click on the D300 SNR at around ISO 570 on the X axis (which the camera reported as ISO 800), and then click on the D800 at around the ISO 2200 point, which the camera reported as ISO 3200. The SNR is still higher on the D*)) despite being at a higher ISO.
From this you can see that ISO 800 on the D300 produced similar if not more noise than the D800 at ISO 3200.
Hence the D800 is at least 2 stops better.
Anyway, you might find this useful:
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Ca...rand2)/Nikon/(appareil3)/440|0/(brand3)/Nikon
Got to measurements, SNR 18%
The X axis is what DXO measured the true ISO to be, click on the dots tells you what th camera stated ISO was at that point. The Y axis is the signal to noise ratio, the higher the SNR the less noise. Clearly you can see the D800 is much better, to find out how much better you can click on the D300 SNR at around ISO 570 on the X axis (which the camera reported as ISO 800), and then click on the D800 at around the ISO 2200 point, which the camera reported as ISO 3200. The SNR is still higher on the D*)) despite being at a higher ISO.
From this you can see that ISO 800 on the D300 produced similar if not more noise than the D800 at ISO 3200.
Hence the D800 is at least 2 stops better.
I was after the noise when comparing pixel with pixel, not sure if you consider that to be the same resolution or not - eg. a crop of the D800 compared with the full frame of the D300.
If that chart means that a crop of a D800 picture at ISO3200 will look identical to a D300 at ISO800, then that is really quite impressive, and all I need to do is find one for sale now. I see that several Hong Kong traders are claiming to have them in stock, and come with "UK warranties", but would much prefer to purchase from a UK vendor.
If that chart means that a crop of a D800 picture at ISO3200 will look identical to a D300 at ISO800, then that is really quite impressive, and all I need to do is find one for sale now. I see that several Hong Kong traders are claiming to have them in stock, and come with "UK warranties", but would much prefer to purchase from a UK vendor.
Another day with camera, wishing I could keep it now , found out how to change focusing mode after missing some shots due to spot focusing. my nose changes the focus point if it was not locked.Will try some raw and hdr next if it stops raining this week.
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Just done a video comparison to a canon 7d, panasonic gh2 and a sony nex fs100 video camera .
D800 won , will put up some stills in the next few days. could not force moire under any conditions.
http://youtu.be/M6ibBv439As. Video comparison
Nice vid showing video detail not mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iigRHfqtAhg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
D800 won , will put up some stills in the next few days. could not force moire under any conditions.
http://youtu.be/M6ibBv439As. Video comparison
Nice vid showing video detail not mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iigRHfqtAhg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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