Dad of the year

[Flukester]

Seems like pretty typical biker behaviour to me.

typical tin box driver comment , bikers of sports bikes are no different than sports car drivers.. it's just your average car enthusiast hates bikers as they ride machines that are faster / cheaper and don't get stuck in traffic (I know this to be true due to amount of people in jams that open there doors on purpose to stop me in summer or just pull over to white line, happened twice last year)

was dumb though, would never speed or drive dumb with a loved one on back...it's plain selfish. when solo though, anything goes if conditions are right and road allows it

if he was a inexperienced rider then it's easy to see how he did it by accident, remember a bike like a busa gets to 120+ mph faster than most sports cars can get to 60, you stop looking at your speedo for a few secs and thats it. though in this case it seems he's a experienced rider ?

Riding a busa in the wet with a pillion is a pretty stupid thing really, they break traction to easy...you need to tip toe not give it loads.

A prison sentence is a joke though, he should get a ban, surely best to punish the father rather than punish the son by taking away his dad for 6 months ?


looking at the video he should not of been accelerating like that in wet up to the corner, but the comments on video that if could have be aweful in a collision are dumb, lets face it, you go head on into anything at > 40mph your gonna die.


this is just a tabloid junk story to help tar 'evil bikers' as such, I've had mercs come hairing past me at > 150 with 4 people in, it's not that unusual and most likely still dangerous. (and the driver takes out 3 * the people in one hit with potential for killing lots of others in the process, nice!)

 

[iraiguana]

I would add my opinion here as a non biker and would say that regardless of vehicle, on a busy road 122mph is never safe. You are not just risking your life by driving at such speeds, but those around you. You have no right to endanger others lives so you can exceed the speed limit. The limit is arbitrary in the point of speed, but it does draw the line in the sand. Above the the limit you take your chances on being caught and have to accept the full consequences of what my come of it be it a slap on the hand or a prison sentance.

I know several people killed by others who thought they were able to get away with much more speed than allowed by law. There are limits on these things for peoples protection not just to be a pain.

In this case it would appear the driver was simply stupid to think that "rain" could be a reasonable excuse. An example should be made of to deter others who make think that such actions are acceptable.

I would suggest regardless if you have a super car or a super bike, always think of the other people who may make a mistake by not expecting someone to be doing twice the limit and accidentally pull out infront of you. You are then unable to react in time as I am sure it is not normally a mechanical problem at that stage which results in the deaths of many on our roads.

People do often survive accidents at speeds above 40mph head on, not motorcyclists but cars can and regulary do. This does not give you an excuse that since you would have died in the event of hitting something at 40mph that it does not matter what speed you were doing above it as its all the same! If you slide off at say 50mph your more likely to survive than if you came off at 120mph.

In summary, good example made to stop others being so stupid.

 

[FreeStream]

Wow, what an idiot :/

100% Deserved IMO!

Oh and it IS more dangerous when raining, why would it not be when you have LESS traction!?

Some people need to get an idea of road conditions!

 

[Flukester]

I would add my opinion here as a non biker and would say that regardless of vehicle, on a busy road 122mph is never safe..

On some roads 122mph is just fine, if a little slow...

it's not a good speed on UK roads in wet though with a pillion, though I have cruised through france with pillion at average 130mph, only because that was the speed I had to travel to keep up with flow of traffic in fast lane.

that made 130mph SAFER than 80mph

tbh the most dangerous thing in that journey was getting round arch de triomphe, I had to do about 5 circuits trying to get off it, it's mayhem

 

[mrgubby]

So he was behaving stupidly, riding a bike on the open road at 122mph with his kid on the back. He could have had an accident, somebody could have been injured/killed

BUT

There wasn't an accident, nobody was injured/killed


So they jail the bloke & a kid loses his father for 3-6 months. He should have taken his kid out and mugged an old lady, could have had a nice bit of money & just a telling off ....

 

[s0ck]

He's a danger to the well being of his son, which has been clearly demonstrated. Hopefully the prison sentence will put him off doing it again. It's only six months, he'll probably be out in 3. He deserves all the fines/points/prison/bum rape he gets.

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On a serious note, I don't think I'd ever put my daughter on the back of a bike. Bikes are not for transporting kids, period.

 

[QBitOscillation]

People are right.

He would get less for mugging someone, assualt, theft, vandalism etc.

What he did hurt NO one, even though potentially it could.

 

[Dogbreath]

In the end he was doing at least twice the speed limit (assuming 70)

2 x 70 != 122

 

[Flukester]

People are right.

He would get less for mugging someone, assualt, theft, vandalism etc.

What he did hurt NO one, even though potentially it could.

yep

country is obsessed with speeding, there are far more important 'crimes' that should be tackled rather than focusing on someone traveling from A to B at a given speed. though tell that to the loon who used to be in charge of wales traffic

potentially so many things in life can be dangerous, and this one and speeding in general certainly isn't worth prison, it's a joke, and most people don't get it (including on interweb forums) .....just proves how much society is messed up.

speeders should be banned or fined and forced to retake tests, unless of course they HAVE actually killed someone.

 

[Dogbreath]

So they jail the bloke & a kid loses his father for 3-6 months. He should have taken his kid out and mugged an old lady, could have had a nice bit of money & just a telling off ....

Yep, a first offence for assaulting someone and stealing their possessions would very likely result in a caution and nothing more.

Was he speeding? Of course.
Was he stupid? Undoubtedly.
Was anyone hurt? No.
Does he deserve a ban? Almost certainly.
Does he deserve 6 months inside for breaking the speed limit? Absolutely not.

 

[atpbx]

speeders should be banned or fined and forced to retake tests, unless of course they HAVE actually killed someone.

So you want................reactive management of peoples behavior rather than proactive?

We dont tell professor Dickweed here he is putting his son at terrible risk until he is dead?

Punishment for the vast majority of speeding is over the top I agree, but things like this, this way out there stupid and irresponsible and he needs some thinking time to ponder what could have happened.

We cant go down this road of comparing rapists and muggers getting lax treatment to this guy getting the right punishment for his actions, they should be treated more harshly, not him treated more leniently.

 

[QBitOscillation]

yep

country is obsessed with speeding, there are far more important 'crimes' that should be tackled rather than focusing on someone traveling from A to B at a given speed. though tell that to the loon who used to be in charge of wales traffic

potentially so many things in life can be dangerous, and this one and speeding in general certainly isn't worth prison, it's a joke, and most people don't get it (including on interweb forums) .....just proves how much society is messed up.

speeders should be banned or fined and forced to retake tests, unless of course they HAVE actually killed someone.

What happened in Wales?

 

[Fireskull]

B R U N S T O R M !

He didnt catch me and I rode through 100 miles of his land with no numberplate ! not by choice though, fell off somewhere in the midlands

 

[Flukester]

What happened in Wales?

the inspector was obsessed with bikers speeding, to a point where he publicaly broadcasted pictures of a decapitated motorcyclist without asking the relatives.. I think he lost his job in the end if I remember rightly.

 

[Sagalout]

Somethings not right with that video though.....look at his lean angle as he went around the corner - no way was that over the speed limit. So I'm assuming he braked for the corner - hard to tell from the video if his brake light is on. I dont pretend to understand how those laser guns work, but at the moment the 122 flashes up he's actually slowed right down, so do they take an average reading over a short distance?

The numbers bandied about just don't seem to correlate with the video clip is all.

 

[Fireskull]

Yea I think its distance calculated, he was easily going over 100mph when passing the camera, but no more than 70 when hes going around that corner though.

 

[DezUk]

No one killed or injured, yet he gets twice the time that Lord Nazir Ahmed does for killing a man while texting! He should appeal his sentence on the grounds of racial and political discrimination.

This guys actions were reckless but not unusual. I've seen plenty of cars being driven in a reckless manner with kids in the back rarely does anything happen to the driver. I wonder if the Judge Wassell has even been on a bike, else he would know the chances of loosing control are minimal. Sure the rider should have been given the same penalty as anyone else found speeding. The law in this country really is back to front at times.

 

[[TW]Fox]

No one killed or injured, yet he gets twice the time that Lord Nazir Ahmed does for killing a man while texting!

Because Lord Nazir was found NOT GUILTY of killing a man whilst texting.

Why is the law so hard for most people on this forum to understand?

 

[Flukester]

Because Lord Nazir was found NOT GUILTY of killing a man whilst texting.

Why is the law so hard for most people on this forum to understand?

because the law is often beyond a farce

 

[cheets64]

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Ah the old, police should be catching real crims, if the police just let everybody do what they wanted on the public roads your high street would be like the M6.

Why do bikers have the high and mighty stance when it comes to driving on the public road.

No one killed or injured, yet he gets twice the time that Lord Nazir Ahmed does for killing a man while texting! He should appeal his sentence on the grounds of racial and political discrimination.

This guys actions were reckless but not unusual. I've seen plenty of cars being driven in a reckless manner with kids in the back rarely does anything happen to the driver. I wonder if the Judge Wassell has even been on a bike, else he would know the chances of loosing control are minimal. Sure the rider should have been given the same penalty as anyone else found speeding. The law in this country really is back to front at times.

He didn't kill him while texting, the guy he hit was a drunk driver and had already crashed on the motorway.