Dashcams and license plate recognition

Rroff · 3 Aug 2020 at 16:17

Kenai said:
In fairness though, unless they did something completely mental, i'd have thought that dashcam or otherwise, a cyclist not being very visible is unlikely to resolve you from blame if you hit one?

Might not resolve you of blame depending on circumstances but it can make a difference - hitting a cyclist tends to be very much a one way street for a driver without any supporting evidence.

Kenai said:
Edit - if anything, if your dashcam is showing improved visibility, it would only have the opposite effect and make it look like you hit a clearly visible cyclist?

Unfortunately yes - I had one awhile back where the dashcam footage the sky looks blue (in reality it was dark) and the cyclist is visible albeit not clear whereas in person you could literally only see the white of their socks until the headlights were on them and being a hill the headlights were off angle and only caught them late.

Nasher · 3 Aug 2020 at 16:40

jpaul said:
yes it's a badly designed road junction - you watched it ?

car street sign recognition, is not so far from anpr algorithms, just a few more targets

The guy went through very obvious red lights at full pelt lol

Rroff · 3 Aug 2020 at 16:47

Nasher said:
The guy went through very obvious red lights at full pelt lol

There are so many things wrong with that video - though the video quality is a bit poor to tell for sure looks like he stopped peddling when the lights went red so possibly he was braking to little effect on the wet surface and aquaplaned past the lights - but then his approach to the junction was poor in every regard never mind with the consideration of stopping a cycle on a wet road which can often be... protracted... which should result in even more care taken than normal.

EDIT: From reading the comments seems there is more footage that was on TV? which shows he was still peddling though some claim he was trying to reverse peddle to slow down :s still the approach is all wrong regardless.

Mcnumpty2323 · 3 Aug 2020 at 16:55

Rroff said:
There are so many things wrong with that video - though the video quality is a bit poor to tell for sure looks like he stopped peddling when the lights went red so possibly he was braking to little effect on the wet surface and aquaplaned past the lights - but then his approach to the junction was poor in every regard never mind with the consideration of stopping a cycle on a wet road which can often be... protracted... which should result in even more care taken than normal.

EDIT: From reading the comments seems there is more footage that was on TV? which shows he was still peddling though some claim he was trying to reverse peddle to slow down :s still the approach is all wrong regardless.

Reverse pedal to slow down?
Can't do that unless a bike has a fixed wheel I don't think
Ie not geared though that's probably the wrong term

Rroff · 3 Aug 2020 at 16:57

Mcnumpty2323 said:
Reverse pedal to slow down?
Can't do that unless a bike has a fixed wheel I don't think
Ie not geared though that's probably the wrong term

I don't know anything about it but there is talk in the comments it is a courier with a fixed wheel bike with only one brake.

Mcnumpty2323 · 3 Aug 2020 at 16:59

Rroff said:
I don't know anything about it but there is talk in the comments it is a courier with a fixed wheel bike with only one brake.

Long time since I cycled lol
Didn't realise fixed wheel bikes were still around

Rroff · 3 Aug 2020 at 17:05

Mcnumpty2323 said:
Long time since I cycled lol
Didn't realise fixed wheel bikes were still around

The only reason I even own a bike is that I won one LOL. Never even rid it.

jpaul · 3 Aug 2020 at 17:32

Looking at video, if he didn't know junction (and wasn't being cautious), it looks like you could think light belonged to the pelican crossing, which they preceeded, and not both those ,and, the later oblique junction, so, he failed to stop in wet(or ran) pelican, and was then, surprised with traffic from left.
Bus driver didn't exactly have fast reactions, stopping after collision, wonder if the bike front wheel took most of the force, since he managed to walk away,
there is a lesson in, not bailing, too.

Nasher · 4 Aug 2020 at 10:06

But any red light facing your direction means stop. Why is it so hard

You wouldnt even feel someone hitting the side of a bus like that. The driver wouldnt notice unless he happened to look in the mirror just at the right time.

Raymond Lin · 4 Aug 2020 at 10:57

I have dashcam on the front and back of my car, I think they are only 2k for the front and 1080p at the back. The quality is good enough to identify the car and if I get into an accident, I would think that means the car is close enough to begin with or he wouldn’t have hit me. If there is injury then the police will be involved. I mean I’d take pre-caution, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Sure you can take it to numberplate recognition, but why not hire 2 more cars front and back with body guards as well to act as both accident buffer and witnesses?

How far are you willing to go?

Nasher · 4 Aug 2020 at 11:31

Weld steel plates on the inside of the body panels and up-armour the whole car. Like they do in banger racing

grudas · 4 Aug 2020 at 12:04

I think dashcams make some drivers worse.

they are often out there to "catch" bad driving by putting themselves in danger just to scream "I'vE gOt iT on ViDeo!!!!!!!!!!"

the number of absolute plums in those dashcam compilation videos is unreal. 99% of those close calls could be avoided but the dashcam warrior feels the need to make it a close call just to show the youtube world how bad the particular driver is.

all a bit of a joke to be fair.

if they worked how intended where people used them in case of a scam, crash etc fair enough but it just ends up being constant "it is going on youtube" BS.

Howard · 4 Aug 2020 at 12:35

I can't watch the UK dashcam compilation videos. They are cringeworthy.

The Russian / Eastern European ones, however, are far more entertaining.

InvaderGIR · 4 Aug 2020 at 12:50

Howard said:
I can't watch the UK dashcam compilation videos. They are cringeworthy.

The Russian / Eastern European ones, however, are far more entertaining.

I love watching the UK ones...it's like watching a soap I guess, it's trash but you just can't help watching it (mind you I refuse to watch soaps). Eastern Europe and Russian ones are amazing / scary, North America ones are pretty good. Usually a fairly safe balance between the Russian craziness and the UK cringe.

builder22 · 4 Aug 2020 at 13:11

Clearly the junctions fault in that cyclist/red light vid, these bloody junctions just get worse!

Basher · 4 Aug 2020 at 13:18

InvaderGIR said:
I love watching the UK ones...it's like watching a soap I guess, it's trash but you just can't help watching it (mind you I refuse to watch soaps). Eastern Europe and Russian ones are amazing / scary, North America ones are pretty good. Usually a fairly safe balance between the Russian craziness and the UK cringe.

Same here! The UK ones are full of people accelerating themselves into situations to get onto a YouTube compilation.

Kenai · 4 Aug 2020 at 13:20

Aussie compilations are great just for the additional humour involved in the slang shouted at other drivers.

Basher · 4 Aug 2020 at 13:35

grudas said:
I think dashcams make some drivers worse.

they are often out there to "catch" bad driving by putting themselves in danger just to scream "I'vE gOt iT on ViDeo!!!!!!!!!!"

the number of absolute plums in those dashcam compilation videos is unreal. 99% of those close calls could be avoided but the dashcam warrior feels the need to make it a close call just to show the youtube world how bad the particular driver is.

all a bit of a joke to be fair.

if they worked how intended where people used them in case of a scam, crash etc fair enough but it just ends up being constant "it is going on youtube" BS.

Exactly this. I always try and give Dashcammers a wide berth on the road as I know many are looking to be YouTube stars.

PiKe · 4 Aug 2020 at 13:41

Nasher said:
Plus without them we wouldn't have entertainment like this

What a moron, see it all the time unfortunately.

jpaul · 4 Aug 2020 at 16:02

Rroff said:
Unfortunately yes - I had one awhile back where the dashcam footage the sky looks blue (in reality it was dark) and the cyclist is visible albeit not clear whereas in person you could literally only see the white of their socks until the headlights were on them and being a hill the headlights were off angle and only caught them late.

um you mean the one going up the hill , where you ... went for it , concerned with following car rear ending.

I've yet to see dashcam coverage , which has good night time resolution/definition, versus human vision,
indeed, can that be proven objectively, if you have the lenses and sensor specification; it's one of the reasons I don't think its worth getting one.

Infra-red night vision assistance excepted eg 508 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi5ElLoRBmw