DCS:- Black Shark English Version Released!

wombraider · 11 Dec 2008 at 19:00

The version of starforce that comes with black shark must be a slightly different
flavour than I have encountered before , I cant see an entry in the device manager -> hidden devices ?

Anyone know if starforce masquerades as something else ?

DJ_Switch · 11 Dec 2008 at 21:52

How is this running for people? Is it stressing the system much to have everything at max?

Nate--IRL-- · 11 Dec 2008 at 23:02

NuclearWinter said:
How are the campaigns in this? Are they still the dull and sterile LOMAC style static missions, or have they implemented a good dynamic campaign ala Falcon 4.0, Longbow 2 or Enemy Engaged this time?

From the SimHQ review........
"DCS Black Shark uses what is described as Staged Campaign System, or SCS. It is somewhere between a dynamic campaign that automatically generates missions, and a linear system that plays the same way every time. An SCS may consist of several stages and each stage may incorporate several (many) missions. Each of the missions is created in the Mission Editor and can have random variables and triggers all to itself. So this is a phased system and will not play out the same time every time, depending of course, on how many missions you assign to a stage and how many stages you have. The line of battle should move back and forth depending on performance."

Nate

Nate--IRL-- · 11 Dec 2008 at 23:04

DJ_Switch said:
How is this running for people? Is it stressing the system much to have everything at max?

Runs better than Lock On FC at the same settings, if you run vista and have Dual Core, there is a little trick to get even more performance.

Nate

rapid64k · 11 Dec 2008 at 23:23

Nate--IRL-- said:
Runs better than Lock On FC at the same settings, if you run vista and have Dual Core, there is a little trick to get even more performance.

Nate

I believe that BS runs on only 1 core but you can enable the second core which should yeld better peromance.

Datamonkey · 11 Dec 2008 at 23:25

Hey guys,

how do you enable the second core?

I have a i7 920 sat at 4ghz lol and its only using 1 core at 78% the others are doing nowt and feeling left out.

Runs ace btw, 2560x1600 everything on high.

smooth as. Very tricky to fly on sim mode, and annoying to fly on game mode

canna map my throttle in game mode for some reason, but works fine in sim mode.

Nate--IRL-- · 11 Dec 2008 at 23:30

If you have vista, ALT-TAB, after you get into you cockpit, just open up the task manager, and set the affinty to both cores on DCS.exe , TADA! up to 40% better performance (not that you need more by the looks of things) Doesn't work on XP

Nate

Nate--IRL-- · 11 Dec 2008 at 23:31

Datamonkey said:
canna map my throttle in game mode for some reason, but works fine in sim mode.

See here... http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=34659

Nate

Nieldo · 12 Dec 2008 at 00:25

Nate--IRL-- said:
If you have vista, ALT-TAB, after you get into you cockpit, just open up the task manager, and set the affinty to both cores on DCS.exe , TADA! up to 40% better performance (not that you need more by the looks of things) Doesn't work on XP

Nate

How about if you have xp and a dual core, is it already taking advantage of the second one?

Datamonkey · 12 Dec 2008 at 12:13

Nate--IRL-- said:
See here... http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=34659

Nate

Cheers for those responses nate,

Will try them both out tonite when i get in, Received my x52 this morning, so will look forward to trying it with that tonite.

Was too hard with the ms Force Feedback Pro, the game it appears doesnt support forcefeedback and the joystick was slack, no self centering or anything, so a bit of a mission lol.

rapid64k · 12 Dec 2008 at 12:28

I think BS does support FFB.

bloodline76 · 12 Dec 2008 at 12:30

Nieldo said:
Heres the dev note #9 which shows the arcade mode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYlD83YSkFo&feature=related

That has to be the most boring youtube video I have ever watched lol

What do you do in the coop? How much is the game?

rapid64k · 12 Dec 2008 at 12:39

$49.99 download....................or wait for the DVD version.

Datamonkey · 12 Dec 2008 at 12:57

rapid64k said:
I think BS does support FFB.

Will look into it.

But the new saitek x52 will probably be making the MS stick redundant now anyways lol

Thought i would take a punt at £60 its not too bad for it now. Surprised they havent released a new stick in the last couple of years, but then there has been a bit of a gap in the flight sim market the last couple of years.

Datamonkey · 12 Dec 2008 at 12:57

rapid64k said:
$49.99 download....................or wait for the DVD version.

$49.99 came out at £33 or just over when i got it last night.

Not too bad i think for a sim as detailed as this.

Nieldo · 12 Dec 2008 at 14:10

bloodline76 said:
That has to be the most boring youtube video I have ever watched lol

What do you do in the coop? How much is the game?

Those videos are not trailers or anything, they are just a little diary showing different areas of the game.

Coop mode is basicly a mission but multiplayer. You can choose to work together or not. If you want to get into that then I woiuld suggest joining a squadron/corp/group/guild/clan.

It sounds like your after instant action, this sim might not be for you.

Nieldo · 12 Dec 2008 at 14:14

Datamonkey said:
Will look into it.

But the new saitek x52 will probably be making the MS stick redundant now anyways lol

Thought i would take a punt at £60 its not too bad for it now. Surprised they havent released a new stick in the last couple of years, but then there has been a bit of a gap in the flight sim market the last couple of years.

I have a x52, second hand of ebay. NEVER buy second hand of ebay

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They made a 'pro' version, but its not really that different from the none pro.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GC-043-SK

If you want a proper mans stick check out the Cougar HOTAS.

http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=11&PlatformID=5

Nate--IRL-- · 12 Dec 2008 at 21:26

Nieldo said:
How about if you have xp and a dual core, is it already taking advantage of the second one?

Nope, for some reason this performance advantage is only obtainable in Vista, maybe in a future patch.....

Nate

KnightStalker · 13 Dec 2008 at 08:32

alright whats the general thought on this, now we have it in full english...im still toying with the idea of getting it, but as lockon never agree'd with me, im sceptical about it.

Andrew_McP · 13 Dec 2008 at 09:48

KnightStalker said:
but as lockon never agree'd with me, im sceptical about it.

In which case I would suggest you leave it. This is LOMAC in a helicopter; nothing has fundamentally changed as far as I can tell so far... apart from the fact they've removed all the other flyable aircraft. :-/

The Ka-50 is undoubtedly a remarkable bit of modelling, don't get me wrong. The cockpit's probably worth the money all on its own for hardcore flight sim geeks. And I'm sure I'll have some fun learning to fly in a straight line... if I ever manage to take off by flicking switches randomly. :-)

But I've only bought it in the hope they'll eventually get round to updating the Su-27. I like my flying metal to have afterburners, not a gearbox.

It would help if this engine had a dynamic battle environment like EECH, but LOMAC/DCS is a long way from having a world which feels genuinely alive. Hopefully they'll get there one day, and that's why I reluctantly bought Flaming Cliffs and now Black Shark. After all, anyone interested in flight sims has little choice but to support the few developers still working.

Andrew McP