Whether you are decent or not has no bearing on this and you haven’t answered my question so I’ll ask again. What makes you think that the Iranian nuclear program is not involved in the production of nuclear weapons?
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Whether you are decent or not has no bearing on this and you haven’t answered my question so I’ll ask again. What makes you think that the Iranian nuclear program is not involved in the production of nuclear weapons?
So is Israel. Who is funding them? Yes the Yanks are funding them? So why should Israel be cleared, when the yanks are providing them all with everything.
its quite clear that israel has nukes for defence
can we same the same for iran ?
there seems to be the possiblilty of them falling in to the wrong hands, and used to threaten us via terrorist organisations in the future
is that not enough reason not to let iran have them ?
its not a funding issue
They have short/medium range missiles which are capable of delivering a nuclear device.
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If it were true it wouldn't be on the front page of a national news paper. It's propaganda. Also if nuclear war was imminent the 'powers that be' wouldn't tell the general heard of our population they would be putting in place actions for there own survival. I know I would in there position.
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because we havnt seen any evidence at all. everything we have heard is based upon assumption.
Not to Israel they do not. Their current MRBM would barely reach the Israeli Border and even then they would have very limited warhead weight capability because of the distances and due to the impracticalities of retrofiting them for nuclear warheads and the significant risk of them hitting a neighbouring allied nation to Iran negate the practical use of them in anything other than limited conventional defensive posturing.
To all intents and purposes, Iran is in no position to deliver a nuclear weapon to Israel by conventional means.
I would be more concerned with Russia's significant threat of upgrading of the Iranian Airforce, Air Defenses and increased aid to the Iranian military machine inspite of UN resolutions unless the US stops interfering in what Russia considers it's sphere of influence.
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You watch too many movies. It's on the front page as its come from an independent report. I am sure the government would rather newspapers did not publish inflammatory headlines but that's free press for you.
You reckon.... what more dangerous than israel who willingly kill civillians in the name of protecting their country ? more dangerous than america who still think its the wild west and roll into any country they like, brazenly flout UN resolutions, doctor evidence and then say they are doing it for world peace.
What exactly makes you say Iran are dangerous, what have they done in the past 2 decades that actually makes them more dangerous than say the US ?
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[TW]Fox;20470809 said:
Not at all, everyone here tries to over analyze everything. Im just using basic common sense with a little bit of knowledge of the evolution of the human animal, survival is paramount, why would they be all noble and try to save everyone at the risk of there own survival, its obvious.
'They' are the people with ability and resources to do what i've said, whoever it maybe, whether the western world truly is democratic and the government are who they are or there are a few other game players at the top who the general population is unaware of, whatever your own belief its always survival of the fittest.
Its pure propaganda, there is even vast amounts of evidence of propaganda in previous conflicts, it was propaganda with afgan and iraq, that was embarrassingly obvious BS as well, this is no different.
The government phone them up and give them the stories they want printed.
This, whilst a load of rubbish, is the only answer you will accept so there you go.
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[TW]Fox;20470885 said:
Surely you’re not that naive to think the world works as it appears to work on the face of things? I mean in terms of social economics it’s beneficial in this world for a man to be a ‘man’ and call a spade a spade, so to speak, a no nonsense lets get on with it person, whom if you don’t mind me saying coming across from your posts you appear to be. While this is all good and well, to not think outside of the box or completely reject other ideas that are based on knowledge of what people are like as well as previous EVIDENCE of deception from governments have done before, I feel is a little bit to much like burying ones head in the sand perhaps ? Of course just saying, hey its all fine in our bubble of the western world is a pretty good coping mechanism. Just because ‘nothings’ ever happened, or ever happened to your parents doesn’t mean a lot of stuff isn’t going on, or perhaps will go on.
End of the day (vaguely relating to this) is the fact the world is never going to change size and humans are a species out of control, sometime, sooner rather than later, something will give and it will either be nuclear war or terrible disease, if by pure chance non of this happens, it will be eventual starvation, which is what happens now to billions. Our western world doesn't feel the effect of this to much, but we will one day. One thing is for SURE and im a man of total science, things will get worse before they get better.
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stay safe bro !!
You don't think governments leak information then?
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Allowed Iraq to invade them, despite America's determined attempts to keep the peace.