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Was it not the case that the Wikileaks cables revealed Americas concern about Israel mounting an attack and it's attempts to convince them it was a bad idea?
Or are Wikileaks cables only a supergreat thing when they support the anti-everything brigade?
Can you demonstrate any evidence to suggest America have or would 'order' Israel to 'blow the **** out of everything'?
It was a reply quoting me claiming that the story came from an IAEA report and that on balance, the government would probably rather the Telegraph were not sensationalising it.
It was clear the implication of your reply was that the Telegraph got the story from the government.
If it was a generic comment why quote me?
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Very interesting what the Iranian news have to say, they are ready for war. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/208047.html
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What else would you expect them to say? Weakness encourages aggression.
Most rational people understand propaganda, but most rational people also know how to put it into context.. Not all news stories are propaganda, not all news stories are factually incorrect..
To believe everything written in a newspaper is correct and representative is naive, but the same goes if you think everything in a newspaper is propaganda, mis-representive and factually incorrect.
IMO of course.
End of the day, war is war, it's a feature of human history, it's not pleasant, but despite the majority of people on the planet never wanting it, you can't argue that it hasn't got us to where we are today.. Peace goes hand in hand with war, always has, always will, and I'm really interested to know how people think the world will play out in their ideological views if someone isn't always wielding a stick..
To believe everything written in a newspaper is correct and representative is naive, but the same goes if you think everything in a newspaper is propaganda, mis-representive and factually incorrect.
IMO of course.
End of the day, war is war, it's a feature of human history, it's not pleasant, but despite the majority of people on the planet never wanting it, you can't argue that it hasn't got us to where we are today.. Peace goes hand in hand with war, always has, always will, and I'm really interested to know how people think the world will play out in their ideological views if someone isn't always wielding a stick..
Exactly this.
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LEAVE IRAN ALONE!! *Chris crocker voice* but when they do fire nukes or missiles I'm sure Israel have a missile shield system which I think is called the "Iron Dome". Cant they just shoot it down and then retaliate? I dont want another Iraq situation where there is no WMD's.
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exactly.
A source please?
What would be the point of spending billions to produce nuclear weapons that could not be delivered to anywhere but your allies?
Perceived prestige and world influence.
Cant see why we or the US would see Iran as a major threat. Sure we have to see them as some sort of threat (and most other countries) but its getting way blown out of proportion, they havent done anything wrong. Lets face it they would get wiped off the map in minutes if they used a nuclear weapon, it is not in their interests.
Its not even good for us, the price of oil would shoot up even higher if we went to war with them. There are far more dangerous and unstable countries that ALREADY have nuclear weapons, with known terrorist group operating in the country.
Sadly I can see this becoming another Iraq in the making. Already the US have started shoving crap in the faces of its people to try and sway them, at least this time they are saying the story doesnt really add up.
Its not even good for us, the price of oil would shoot up even higher if we went to war with them. There are far more dangerous and unstable countries that ALREADY have nuclear weapons, with known terrorist group operating in the country.
Sadly I can see this becoming another Iraq in the making. Already the US have started shoving crap in the faces of its people to try and sway them, at least this time they are saying the story doesnt really add up.
Absolutely this. War with Iran would be catastrophic for global oil prices and much of the world economy as a result. There is no oil based benefit of attacking Iran! The only thing worse for world oil would be attacking Saudi!
I completely agree, only if we can safely assume that we're talking about logical reasonable people.
If however they are the kind of people who honestly believe they die and receive 72 virgins and are willing to blow themselves up in the name of their god (as do many brainwashed fanatics) then, meh!
Just saying like.
Pretty scary if this is true tbh. Most of the countries with nuclear weapons have been reducing there nuclear arsenal for years whilst these mad dogs are still trying to create there own.I don't think USA or Britain has the capability to do anything about it, considering the US is stretched in afghan and Iraq and a lot of our forces our overseas in afghan too.
It really is alarming, Ahmadinejad believes we are living in the end times and that we are close to Armageddon and he wants to fulfill the prophecies.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=34221
However i think any kind of attacks by the US/UK/ will cause an uproar in the middle east and destabilize the region.
It really is alarming, Ahmadinejad believes we are living in the end times and that we are close to Armageddon and he wants to fulfill the prophecies.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=34221
However i think any kind of attacks by the US/UK/ will cause an uproar in the middle east and destabilize the region.
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I love how the people that swallow the rhetoric about Iran don't question our support for Saudi Arabia, probably one of the worst regimes in the world. Yet a regime we (both US [the biggest arms dealer in the world] and UK) are happy to sell billions of dollars worth of hi tech weaponry too, in exchange for energy security of course.