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[Vulcan]

Another prime example of why religion is a force of good with the correct moral compass we all need to follow.

People will do anything to justify their hatred. Religion is just another one

Whilst some may hate and say it's because of their religion, most hate because of their religion. They are following what it says in the Bible: Leviticus 20:13, amongst others.

 

[semi-pro waster]

The Americans go over the top with being gay.
When I went to Texas (to see a friend who had just moved there) there are so many teenage men who are gay. It seems to be the 'in thing'. Very bizzare indeed.

Couldn't they just, well y'know, be gay? I don't know but I wouldn't immediately assume it's for the sake of being fashionable - I'm not an ideal person to talk on the matters of style and cool but that seems like an awfully odd way of trying to achieve it.

Gays still can't get married here, something that needs to be addressed as soon as possible.

They can however get a civil partnership which gives the same rights and responsibilities as marriage to all intents and purposes. While it might be nice if all those who wanted a religious ceremony could have one to force religions to carry out such services doesn't seem particularly ok either.

If it's just the choice of words then I suspect most people will refer to civil partnership in such cases as marriage anyway.

I'm sure our less civilised American cousins will grow up eventually. I mean they're only a few hundred years behind.

If you believe in the wit of Mr Wilde then perhaps not - "America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.".

 

[Hitman_Leon]

I really don't know why people label people these days, except of deviants and criminals what is the point my view is;

Your another person like me, nothing else matters.

These bible jockeys give religion a bad rap, mostly I just view it as an instruction book on how to be a person.

The way these people read it is on how to be a 'im a superior person because I read an old book of abstract verses and I talk to myself but for me its called a prayer'.

Hokum!, utter rubbish, take your religion, way of life, skin colour, disability, nationality, sexuality and whatever else you hold dear and live you life leaving others to live theirs.

 

[AGD]

The religious extremists in America are just the same as the Taliban. Sad.

 

[Cosimo]

The trouble with the gays is that they are always shoving it down my throat.

Ooh err missus, very tasty!

 

[bluDawg]

The religious extremists in America are just the same as the Taliban. Sad.

its because there nuts

 

[jabroni_83]

its so sad that people like this use religion as an excuse for there own prejudices and fears. i assume they're christians which should mean they love and care for people, not judge and reject. stupid

 

[Threepwood]

Saddest thing is it's all based on one word in the new testiment which had been translated poorly, most modern translaters now believe it means 'marital bed' and not 'soddomy'.
(ignoring the old testiment here btw)
Cwazy.


Edit: The context is to not lie in another mans marital bed, as opposed to not lie in another mans bottom

 

[Redrum]

The discrimination in that story is of course despicable, but not surprising considering it's the US. The part of the story that surprised me was this:

13-year-old Sam had climbed into the bathtub after school and shot herself in the mouth with her own hunting rifle

Is it normal for 13 year olds to have their own rifles?

 

[Hatter The Mad]

They can however get a civil partnership which gives the same rights and responsibilities as marriage to all intents and purposes. While it might be nice if all those who wanted a religious ceremony could have one to force religions to carry out such services doesn't seem particularly ok either.

Marriage is a legal institution first, religious one second.

 

[Hitman_Leon]

Is it normal for 13 year olds to have their own rifles?

They are supplied by local church groups for hunting gays and Obama supporters, oh and just in case the communists invade from Cuba.

It's a fact of life in country that has a huge hunting fraternity, sad the parents have no idea how to apply safety measures and lock them away when they are not being used for purpose.

 

[semi-pro waster]

Marriage is a legal institution first, religious one second.

I am aware of this, however by many marriage is now assumed to be a religious event which is the point I was addressing in RomanNose's post. I'd still argue that to force those who are religious to carry out marriages for a union they disagree with is not acceptable.

If the point is about retaking the precise title back of marriage to be a civil union and that there should be some kind of modifier applied to denote when it is conducted under a religious ceremony then I'm unconcerned either way - seems like a slightly unnecessary effort but if on balance it is more wanted then not I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

If the couple aren't bothered about the actual title of the union then they can have a civil partnership already which is, as I said, in effect a marriage giving as it does the same rights and responsibilities.

 

[joxang]

That was horrible reading. Christians on the whole I find to be lovely people but I hate the gay-bashing, evolution-denying, evangelical, bigoted members of their population with a passion. This just takes the biscuit. Michelle Bachmann...urghhhh.

 

[Jambo]

I bet half of them have posted a YES in the 'would you let Richard Branson make love to you for £2m' thread.

 

[Em3bbs]

The trouble with the gays is that they are always shoving it down my throat.

You are sick.

 

[lunarwolf]

Nine children killed themselves in two years thanks to the perverted interpretation of religious doctrine

4/9 were homosexuals. also 13 years old seems a bit precocious to be talking about "definitive" sexuality, kids may have questions about sexuality at that age but seriously lack experience and certainly to proclaim themselves one way or the other seems a bit premature

the issue here is early teen suicide (think it's more than one factor tbh ie relations with family, friends, love life, identity crisis, low self esteem (after all Britanny is fat) etc...) rather than just "gay or straight", but "gay" makes a catchy sensational headline. furthermore, i am not sure what Bachman has to do with this story (i don't like her, but I don't see any evidence of her responsibility for these suicides). oh well it's only Rolling Stone magazine

read the article and not just the headline and think twice before you accuse others of perverted interpretations.

 

[James J]

That's a fairly grim read for a Saturday morning. It's a shame to see that this sort of thing still exists in this day and age. I use to be very homophobic back in my teens and it use to be a massive taboo subject at my school with literally no one coming out in a population of 1500 students. Now I've got friends who are gay, both male and female, and they are just nice normal people for all intensive purposes lol.

I agree with whoever said about "not liking it when they shove it down your throat" or something, as I really don't like mincing queens as I simply don't understand why they feel the need to do it. Take my friend Liam for example, hes gay, arguably looks gay also, yet doesn't feel the need to put on a daft camp voice or walk like hes **** himself.

I do feel that religion should try and open its doors more to the gay community but I know its not something that will happen very easily, if at all. When you teach that being gay is against gods design, its quite hard to come back from that really lol.

 

[RDM]

I am aware of this, however by many marriage is now assumed to be a religious event which is the point I was addressing in RomanNose's post. I'd still argue that to force those who are religious to carry out marriages for a union they disagree with is not acceptable.

If the point is about retaking the precise title back of marriage to be a civil union and that there should be some kind of modifier applied to denote when it is conducted under a religious ceremony then I'm unconcerned either way - seems like a slightly unnecessary effort but if on balance it is more wanted then not I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

If the couple aren't bothered about the actual title of the union then they can have a civil partnership already which is, as I said, in effect a marriage giving as it does the same rights and responsibilities.

It doesn't quite give the same rights. There are some issues around pensions I believe that do not apply to civil partnerships.

That aside the fact that we are now in a situation of "seperate but equal" which I personally do not feel is healthy. Would you accept a special type of marriage just for black people?

I don't think anyone but the most ardent of gay rights activists want to force religious institutions to preside over gay marriages but don't you think it would be nice if they could choose to do so?

Thankfully we are not in the same position as the US but we are still allowing religious institutions to force their beliefs on to those that have no interest in them. Your reliogion is against homosexuality? Fine, dont marry someone of the same gender, however you shouldnt be allowed to tell others who they can and cannot marry.

 

[RDM]

read the article and not just the headline and think twice before you accuse others of perverted interpretations.

Having read the article and not just the headline I would still say that the school board's policy did have an impact on some of the suicides and that they had the policy due to pressure from evangelical groups.

 

[MofoKilla]

if you aint gay you aint cool