DELL 2407 Arrives at OcUK!!

Im using it in desktop mode over dvi and it looks great, Just tryed a bit of the matrix reloaded from my pc and it looked stunning, try between desktop and multimedia mode and personally it looks beter in multimedia. Any opinions on what the best dvd playback software is
 
bare in mind that this Faroudja image processing was not use in the GM1601 Genesis chip in the 2405FPW

It's one of those things which in theory is useful, but many screens are perfectly fine without it. The 2407WFP in it's A01 "desktop" setting is fine, and you don't really notice the loss of the Faroudja algorithms. These enhancements are commonly used in LCD TV's, maybe it's designed more for that application, but was tacked on to the Genesis chip for the 2407WFP as it was being more geared up for TV use as well, with its HDCP support. It's not needed, the screen is perfectly fine without it.

I think on larger LCD TV's, the ACM and ACC features are useful since the screens are more aimed at movies / Tv / games. The Faroudja processing might help in these cases as the suite of enhancements is really designed to bring the most out of movies and film on displays (improve brightness, improve minor movie details, improve jaggedness etc). However, on the 2407WFP, in "desktop" use, you don't need these enhancements since you're using static images and Windows use. Dell have left the processing enabled in the other presets like "multimedia" and "gaming" so that you can make the most of these algorithms for these other uses. The technology was designed for multimedia / movie / gaming use, so Dell have left it enabled. In the two presets you can see if the Faroudja processing makes any difference, but i would imagine you can get just as much out of the screen by leaving it in "desktop" mode. The techology is designed to tweak display characteristics for multimedia use, and might well be very handy for TV's. However, PC displays are far more customisable by their nature as you have a massive control over them not only through the OSD, but from your graphics card as well. Having a chip in the monitor tweak the display settings in movie playback for instance is just not needed since you can tweak things yourself through software etc. Hope this makes sense.

What I'm trying to get at is that LCD TV's are not as easy to tweak yourself, and are pretty much exclusively used for multimedia movie and gaming purposes. The suite of enhancements in the Faroudja Video Processing technolgoy are useful to help get the most out of the screen in these circumstances. On a desktop PC display, you use it far more for static images and windows, and you don't need these enhancements anyway. If you do use the TFT for multimedia, you can use software and graphics card / monitor options to change things anyway. For those who don't want to have to tweak the settings themselves (if they even needed to) they can just use the monitor presets to allow the Faroudja processing to operate, just like it would if it were a multimedia screen anyway. I think Dell have made a good move really here, allowing the user to choose how they want to use it. In practice, for a desktop TFT, i doubt you would ever need to leave the "desktop" preset mode.
 
my mate got one today A01
Tried a banding test using the gradient tool in photoshop and its very noticeable. Tried it in the other display modes and desktop mode is far the better. The other modes make it look more severe.
 
Baddass, that was very well written and extremely in-depth (including your new article to complement the story). It was about time that someone clarify such matters in directed, technical and "user friendly" way. I'm so tired of that banding hype, especially when panic attack is coming from the people who are not exactly up for the job for such statements. No offence to anyone here really, but my theory is that you have to observe->learn->test and repeat this cycle couple of times until public statement is made. People are simply firing up the colour gradient test patterns immediately after they receive the screen and at the same time they don't have a clue about the monitor capabilities (0 research), working modes, configuration, why is that happening (especially with the A01 revision) and how the picture perception is affected.

As I already mentioned in my previous post here, it's no news that banding side effect is present when picture processing engine is ON (monitor video profiles) and as long as you can select the "native" monitor mode (desktop in Dell case) you are just fine. It's only unclear for me why Dell didn't included the native profile at first place and with the first revision. Maybe their marketing strategy was that monitor have that "wow" factor out of the box and that is utterly wrong imho ... or simply TV features prevailed at the end. Who knows.

Important thing is that even if the banding is present in the colour test patterns (when using other non-native monitor modes), that *doesn't* neceserally means that final perception would be affected or distracted, especially when the screen is "noisy" (playing games, movies) and watched from the distance.

Did you ever tried to display the colour gradients from the PC on your LCD TV which has picture processing engine ? You would be surprised about the results ;)
 
Had mine a few days now. Only annoyance is 1080i handling is nasty (visible flicker) and 1600x1200 cannot be set to 1:1. For some reason it disables this menu option for this res and forces a stretch to fit. Otherwise I'm very happy.
 
No idea whats going on with the OcUK ones, the date hasnt changed yet >.< hope they get sent today cos I waaaaaaaaaaant my monitor. :p
 
The sites changed... to just "pre-order" now without a date so er I guess this means they've given up on dates and they've no idea when they will get some in? :(
 
Drake said:
no asking for competitors please!
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Then gimme the one I ordered 3 weeks ago plz! :P

i don't work for the shop :) I'm assuming there are problems with Dell getting stock out. Patience.... :)
 
One heck of a price to pay for a TFT! I still use my trusty old 17" CRT! I still haven't found a TFT with as good a picture as the CRT. I cannot see me ever paying more than £200 for a Monitor. I am not Tight, just seems too much to pay.

Granted the Monitor is the one part of the PC bundle that is used the most and has to be right but i just don't have £700 to spend on a TFT. That amount would buy a few juicy components!! Good luck to those who do buy them though.
 
Shocky-FM said:
Why was my post deleted, there were no competitor links? Or are we not even allowed to suggest that an item is cheaper elsewhere? :eek:
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no, unfortunately discussion of prices elsewhere is not allowed as it cross the "no competitor talk" discussion. Back when the Dell 2405FPW was released we had the same problem and the thread was a total mess. In future, please email a mod if you have questions about moderating decisions, don't ask them on the boards. thanks
 
For all those of you who already have 2407's, it looks like Dell has already moved on to rev A02 for monitors selling in the States :mad: Don't know the exact details of the diff's between A01 and A02, but it might be worth giving Dell a ring if you have an A01.

The info comes from the Dell moderator in Dell's own customer forum

Any news on what Rev OcUK will actually be getting in (and when)?
 
A02 is not neccessarily > A01

we don't know if they have improved anything, we haven't actually seen anyone receive an A02 yet, it's just been mentioned on the Dell forums that's all. Having the latest revision doesn't necessarily mean things are better....we will have to see
 
I am not that bothered, as long as one of the modes is good, I only need one.:P. But it would still be annoying. I guess we could just comaplain to Dell and they might swap it??
 
Perhaps the A01 was simply a temporary fix for the problems by disabling the chips, and maybe the A02 is the permanent fix for the issues, perhaps by sorting out that chip (the weird named one) so you can have it enabled in all modes with none of the issues. Most likely none of thats right, but it could be good if Dell did something like that. Then again there'd be a lot of people wanting to return monitors.
 
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