Depression

Energize said:
Eating serotonin does nothing, it cannot permeate the blood brain barrier.

The role of diet in psychiatric disorders is very small except for malnutrition, eating some sugary or fatty food does not cause depression.
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Yeah it's other things you are looking out for in veg i've not fully researched it diet in combination with depression. It's just a statement and a link theres a few more on google disucssing it in great detail, I was just linking the article. However there are things diet wise you can do to boost serotonin.

Either way, you should not eat tons of sugar or fatty food. Period. Depression or not. However, when I cleaned my diet up I felt tonnes better and had more energy and noticed a greatly improved mood.

A couple good books on it are 150 healthiest foods, Ultra mind solution and primal blueprint couple good ones if anyone's interested.
 
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I cannot see diet affecting depression i think people with genuine depression have reasons to feel depressed and simply cannot deal with it or the factor is outside of thier control. And you have to feel for them because long term there is no cure for depression if you look into all the popular pills doctors give out thier all toxic on the liver and stomach long term.


Infact is it debatable if people should even take them in anything but the most extreme self harm cases. But it seems that there is no place for the depressed people to heal naturally and thus they must be hastily cured to rejoin the workforce/society at large. I can imagine the look on the face of your doctor or ATOS when you tell them you might need a few years to resolve some issues.


Hold him down nurse, Prep red pill.
 
Rofflay said:
I cannot see diet affecting depression i think people with genuine depression have reasons to feel depressed and simply cannot deal with it or the factor is outside of thier control. And you have to feel for them because long term there is no cure for depression if you look into all the popular pills doctors give out thier all toxic on the liver and stomach long term.
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No they are not.
 
You're not alone buddy! I used to (and still do, occasionally) suffer from anxiety and depression. Mine developed very slowly, over the course of perhaps 4 or 5 years, due to a series of bad relationship problems. Things hit an all time low this January when the stress of university really got on top of me. I felt unloved, utterly useless and shy and wouldn't leave my room for days despite living with two very good mates of mine. There's no quick fix that I've found unfortunately, but I find that getting out the house and socialising (whether it be a sport, or class of some sort, or just meeting friends) and exercising helps massively. Nowadays I tend to keep myself as busy as possible and avoid situations where I let the thoughts get on top of me.

A good documentary that I'd recommend is Stephen Fry's The Secret Life Of A Manic Depressive (you can watch it on youtube). I definitely don't manic depression, and you may not either, but I found it very comforting that there was someone else out there who knew how I felt.

I struggled with feelings at times in relationships doubting if I trully loved them.
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I get the exact same thing, it's something that I still struggle with daily, especially when I'm not around my girlfriend. You're not alone :)
 
I've suffered with depression on and off for the best part of 10 years. The biggest thing that people who've never experienced it don't understand is that you don't need a reason to be depressed, you can have the most comfortable life imaginable and still be a sufferer and this is why so many people also struggle to talk to many other people about it because they can often feel 'silly' or 'pathetic', of course this isn't the case but it's how a lot of people think/feel at the time.

The best advice I'd give anyone who feels they may be affected is to seek professional help ASAP, GP's are generally very good and will make you aware of different options available to help diagnose if you have a disorder and how to go about the matter (Don't expect them to throw you a subscription for anti-depressants straight away as they aren't the only way to treat). I wish I had someone give me this advice years ago because I got to the point where I ended up self harming and this is where my family found out and forced me to go to a therapist for 6 months, this turned my life around and even though I fell back into a similar state around 10 months ago I was able to use the help I learned from therapy years ago to sort myself out without the need to use medication or further therapy.

Keeping it to yourself is the worst thing you can do so it's good to hear you're getting help OP, all the best :)
 
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koolpc said:
Depression and anxiety for me. Been on meds for approx 10 years now!!

Something i only just found that helps with anxiety. Chamomile Tea! Give it a try
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Completely agree with the Chamomile tea! And also green tea, nuts and wholemeal pasta seem to help me for some reason.
 
Anxiety, Panic Attacks and Depression here.

Had a bit of a breakdown a couple of years ago and lost my job as a result.

Tried therapy etc but never really found it helped. Been on anti-depressants and have gotten better.

Just been offered a job as well after over 2 years of unemployment so things are looking up.
 
Get off the PC and go outside more, I get ****ed off sitting at home here on the PC when i'm on my own, When I've spent the day out having a walk about the place or a walk to somewhere i've never been i feel happy when I come home. Try and do something different every week and see how you feel.
 
Energize said:
No they are not.
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Do you trust them? Citalopram is a common drug and take a look on the label and ask if you think taking long term zinc and everything else is ok? Now google Citalopram stomach damage or Citalopram stomach liver.


I certainly would not take them or trust them half of the research is hidden anyways after trials.
 
Rofflay said:
Do you trust them? Citalopram is a common drug and take a look on the label and ask if you think taking long term zinc and everything else is ok? Now google Citalopram stomach damage or Citalopram stomach liver.
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Yes I do trust them. Clinical trials have been conducted with SSRI's over the past 35 years involving hundreds of thousands of patients, and they are one of the most common prescribed medications, tens of millions of people take them around the globe every day. Their side effect profile is well established, and like virtually all medications on the market, there are some very rare instances of acute hepatotoxicity. What you are saying however, is unfounded.
 
Rofflay said:
Do you trust them? Citalopram is a common drug and take a look on the label and ask if you think taking long term zinc and everything else is ok? Now google Citalopram stomach damage or Citalopram stomach liver.


I certainly would not take them or trust them half of the research is hidden anyways after trials.
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I take Citalopram. Am I doomed? That's not gonna help the depression :(
 
a lot of useful information, some of it mis-guided. While I agree diet is an intrinsic part of getting better, if those of you saying refusing drugs and just exercising and changing diet etc sorted you out then power to you but no way were you clinically depressed.

The thing is with depression, its your body's natural response to being under attack for a long period of time mentally, physically, emotionally. You stop operating like a normal person, your body wants to shut down to recover, and the more you try and cope the worse things get. The medication is not prescribed as a cure it is there to help your body slowly but surely get back to normal, this is done by it having an effect on how you cope with stress's , allowing you to sleep better eat better. And all of this takes a long time, once your body starts to recover from the depressive state only then can you start to make the life style changes that come with recovery, you learn how to cope, what not to do you break the cycle, once you do this your free and not controlled by it, you control it, that's the key. When you get there you know it too.

I myself am not looking to be cured, I'm looking to be back in control of me, and after 18 years of depression and 5 years in recovery I can say I am back in control. And the crazy thing is I didn't know I was suffering for all these years until recently when I got back control.

To all sufferers out there, keep on living and take it day by day. The other side is out there and it does come eventually.

CB
 
DJDaz said:
I take Citalopram. Am I doomed? That's not gonna help the depression :(
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I wouldn't worry about it. It is the most prescribed drug in America and people aren't dropping dead all over the place are they?

To people who say they wouldn't take this drug or that drug under any circumstances, I question whether they would rethink their stance if put in the position that it may be the only thing that could relieve their suffering? I believe meds should be a last resort, but there is an unquestionable value in them for helping people get back on track.

Given the choice, I'd rather take the very small risk of medication toxicity versus suffering intolerable mental anguish.
 
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I take Citalopram and have been doing so for 10 years. I would much rather take those and be better than go through the terrible depression / anxiety i had back then. Nothing was as bad as back then. I was on the brink of suicide then so who cares what rumours there are about possible side effects of Citalopram as the alternative is really scary for me!
 
yep I had/have it

Darkest 3 years of my life, the constant question my self, the stress, the constant feeling of not being able to cope and wanting to run out where ever i was and jump of a bridge, just wanting to go home and curl up in a ball. The only time i was at ease was when I was asleep. Ended up with no socialife and did'nt know anyone outside of my work. as well as "wanting to end it all" daily as i felt i could'nt cope.

The past 6 months or so I do feel like my old self finally, its been a struggle by myself but i got there and i wouldn't want to wish depression on even my worse enemy.

So anyone with it i would say. Seek help, talk to your friends and family or anyone, even go on medication. Personally, I found medication took the edge off, but the "talking" helped turn the tide.

I hope this helps someone
 
It really amazes me the amount of people who are on some form of anti depression/anti psychotic/SSRI pills etc. Cannabis covers pretty much all bases, its an anti depressant, it stimulates appetite and it even has anti psychotic properties and guess what? Its had thousands of years of being tried and tested and not one person has ever died from smoking it. These pills you're being given have barely been around a quarter of a decade, the populace are big pharmas guinea pigs. I've known so many people who've been given tons of different pills to try and its messed them up more than before and created a physical dependancy and ultimately thats what big pharma wants, more ill people so they can sell more drugs.
 
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