You should really watch the whole thing. There are some very important facts that you're not aware of if you don't. It's not as black and white as you think [haha].
Why don't you watch it and come back with your newly-informed opinion?
Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)
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You should really watch the whole thing. There are some very important facts that you're not aware of if you don't. It's not as black and white as you think [haha].
Why don't you watch it and come back with your newly-informed opinion?
Generally when people protest they want a 'fair trial' what they actually mean is they want a trial which returns the verdict they want.
Where to, though? Jury intimidation in this case wouldn't be limited to any particular location. Wherever the jury is, they'll know that anything other than a guilty of everything verdict will (a) be used as an excuse for killings, mass rioting, more calls to remove the police and replace them with the ideology's militia so that the ideology has de facto control of territory, more calls to overthrow the government and more calls for full on racist genocide and (b) make each juror a target for harassment, assault or murder. And there will be protestors outside the court to constantly remind jurors of those things.
Anywhere else would be less of an impediment to a fair trial thanks to that city's mayor publically declaring the defendant guilty before the trial even started, but the core of the problem exists everywhere in the USA (and outside of the USA).
I've seen many references over the decades (at least as far back as the 1980s) to mixtures of potent stimulants and opiates being a particularly dangerous combination of drugs with an increased risk of accidental overdose. If that's true, mixing methamphetimine and fentanyl would be notably risky because fentanyl is already notorious for accidental overdosing by itself.
When you think about it, convicting a potentially innocent man to placate a misinformed mob is utterly dreadful. I wonder if they should just let him off and let people fight among themselves. Or would we see a full-on race war in the USA?
EDIT: Reading the Wikipedia article, I wasn't aware that both autopsies had ruled the death as a homicide, and the drug overdose as "maybe" a complicating issue.
I suppose Chauvin is going down, it's the easier option.
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Evidence is still pretty clear, manslaughter is a given.
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I've now had to swing back the other way seeing a lot of my job is around Post Mortems and we have to to take the facts given to us by the Pathologists
Convicting innocent people to placate a misinformed mob has plenty of precedent. From a larger scale political point of view it sometimes seems the course of least harm.
This is a description of what is to be expected whenever and wherever the ideology gains enough power:
https://www.startribune.com/near-ge...olution-by-day-devolution-by-night/600034699/
Although that's only partial - only one killing in a one block area in a week and the police are sometimes allowed into the zone. If the followers of the ideology get their way fully, the situation would be much worse.
With the autopsy showing evidence of a drug overdose large enough to cause death, evidence of two different forms of heart disease and no clear evidence of death caused by another person, ruling the death a homicide is not an entirely evidence-led conclusion.
In the short term, yes. It's a difficult political decision. On one hand it furthers empowers the ideology behind the mob, which has the intention of turning the whole country into a racist tyranny of violence and squalor. On the other hand, it reduces the chance of an immediate large increase in the amount of death and destruction as the ideology's thugs go rioting with free rein and safe in the knowledge that their rioting will be given widespread positive media coverage, which also further empowers the ideology behind the mob.
It's an expert's opinion, one that might be questioned as he stated that if Floyd had been found at home, it might have been ruled an overdose.
The autopsy also showed hypertensive heart disease and severe arteriosclerotic heart disease. Both of which are obviously linked to an increased risk of dying from a cardiac arrest (which was the immediate cause of death - the argument is over what caused the cardiac arrest).
The cause of the cause of death in this case is far less clear than it's sometimes claimed to be, especially as it needn't be one single cause (and probably wasn't).
Stop trolling or I will have to put you in order AGAIN.
So get a bib as it will get messy.
Judge not happy at all with the media's behaviour - including reporting on security arrangements inside the court and trying to look at lawyer's laptops, notes etc..
Also considering motion to move or delay the trial, to be announced on Friday. I guess if a delay or if the trial is moved then things could kick off this weekend (especially in the case where it is moved).
I wonder what the procedure is for moving a trial though if that does happen - like there are obvious factors here - if they were to move to a majority-black area or some area that is massively whiter than the current country it is held in then who decides that? Or indeed a strong Republican or Democrat area? Ideally should be similar demographics to the current county I guess.
Also considering motion to move or delay the trial, to be announced on Friday. I guess if a delay or if the trial is moved then things could kick off this weekend (especially in the case where it is moved).
I wonder what the procedure is for moving a trial though if that does happen - like there are obvious factors here - if they were to move to a majority-black area or some area that is massively whiter than the current country it is held in then who decides that? Or indeed a strong Republican or Democrat area? Ideally should be similar demographics to the current county I guess.
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If you want a fair trial I don't think area matters, it's more about finding jury members who aren't exposed to or easily influenced by corporate media (mainstream TV news), social media and pitch fork waving mobs outside the court.
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One take that interests me is how Trump was accused of inciting the mob to storm the capital....which he didn't do overtly, but he certainly fanned the flames and did nothing to stop.
Yet nobody has accused anyone of telling a half truth and inciting outrage in this case. There was no lack of fuel from media outlets and politicians. People lost their businesses and lives in the riots that ensued, but where is the equivalent investigation to Trumps indictment?
The full body cam footage has been available for months and months, yet the media have doubled down on the original narrative.
Yet nobody has accused anyone of telling a half truth and inciting outrage in this case. There was no lack of fuel from media outlets and politicians. People lost their businesses and lives in the riots that ensued, but where is the equivalent investigation to Trumps indictment?
The full body cam footage has been available for months and months, yet the media have doubled down on the original narrative.
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I think you can, trust in the US media is at an all time low, many people have become increasingly aware of not just MSM coverage being bias but that more broadly speaking the big tech companies are also the same. And now there's starting to be some push back against that with growth of alternative media and alternative social media platforms.
With rare exceptions, the media and politicians go after soft targets, following whatever the trend is. Especially in modern media, where getting views ASAP matters a lot more than the truth. That tends to lock media outlets into whatever position they took immediately. It's part of the reason why a small number of people can have a large effect - they just need to start the avalanche. They don't need to push all of it it all the way down the hill because once it starts moving other forces will do that.
Which is why they're being suppressed. ONLY NAZIS USE UNAPPROVED MEDIA! is an effective tactic, especially when combined with cutting them off from hosting and payment processing because the de facto authorities have decided their social credit score is too low. China's the world leader in that, but they're not the only horse in the race.
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Yup this has been a real uphill struggle, this old adage that "if you don't like it just build your own [twitter|facebook|whatever]" actually turned into a giant deplatforming. Having the apps removed from stores, having cloud services ended, and even payment processors banning them. This should be extremely concerning to people but it's hardly talked about because discussion of it online is suppressed like mad. Twitter for example will straight up ban the trending of certain hashtags or even outbound links related to alternative media, it's completely out of control. We inch ever closer to 1984, let's just hope that at least some of the Jury are aware of the bias and get their information from more places than just those approved by the ministry of truth.
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