Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)

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dowie said:
Judge is seemingly only allowing very limited stuff from the 2019 video, not allowing his general behaviour etc.. but seemingly will allow bits with regards to him swallowing drugs - stuff leading up to conversation with paramedic is not admissable, tape of the paramedic isn't admissable either (as it shows Floyd's similar emotional behaviour) - can enter the info about the drugs, statement form the paramedic, high blood pressure etc.. Is allowing evidence shows that Floyd has very high blood pressure after the drugs, not allowing statement from Paramedic warning him re: heart attack.

Paramedic can testify why she told Floyd to go to the hospital, stuff about his behaviour at the hospital and whether he was violent etc.. isn't admissable.
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So the jury will not see the full video we all can see...that's crap
 
deuse said:
So the jury will not see the full video we all can see...that's crap
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Isn't that unfair, in that the Jury should be made aware of the full events leading up to the incident, surely withholding the whole context would prevent an unbiased decision being made.
 
I can understand the video being inadmissible if GF were on trial, but when it’s so exculpatory for DC? GF having an MO for swallowing drugs when approached by police seems pretty pertinent, especially when the 2019 vid is a near carbon copy of the 2020 one.

I wonder how many other times he’s played Russian Roulette like this.
 
Massive media bias against the defendant.
Massive political bias against the defendant, up to and including large scale politically motivated violence including killings and thus forming a realistic threat to juror's lives if they don't return a guilty verdict.
Massive imbalance in legal representation, hugely favouring prosecution.
Lots of relevant evidence for the defence ruled inadmissable.

I think those factors are acting very strongly against a fair trial.
 
Angilion said:
Massive media bias against the defendant.
Massive political bias against the defendant, up to and including large scale politically motivated violence including killings and thus forming a realistic threat to juror's lives if they don't return a guilty verdict.
Massive imbalance in legal representation, hugely favouring prosecution.
Lots of relevant evidence for the defence ruled inadmissable.

I think those factors are acting very strongly against a fair trial.
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Yeah the world is borked, it sickens me - everyone is due a fair trial if they go to court, but this is looking unlikely in this case. I really despair with humanity sometimes. If somebody is guilty, no matter their colour, show all the evidence and let a balanced view be the outcome rather than succumbing to the mob with an agenda.
 
Angilion said:
Massive media bias against the defendant.
Massive political bias against the defendant, up to and including large scale politically motivated violence including killings and thus forming a realistic threat to juror's lives if they don't return a guilty verdict.
Massive imbalance in legal representation, hugely favouring prosecution.
Lots of relevant evidence for the defence ruled inadmissable.

I think those factors are acting very strongly against a fair trial.
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Decades of police brutality and prejudice have created a lot of anger, rightly so. Hope they lock him up for a long time.
 
jsmoke said:
He could be guilty?
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I had him pegged as guilty at the start because you know "merica" and their police but with all the recent information it just looks to me that a criminal with with a number of health issues died during an arrest. Cant see a murder charge sticking, manslaughter possibly.

Under different circumstances and without the media frenzy etc I wouldn't be surprised if he kept his job and served zero time.

If found not guilty I wonder if he would end up suing his old department for wrongful dissmissal. They did fire him didn't they?
 
The 2019 video up until he’s handcuffed will be admissible. Back to 2020 - there was a pill with GF’s saliva on it found in the back of the police car after the incident. No mention of what it was yet.
 
jsmoke said:
Decades of police brutality and prejudice have created a lot of anger, rightly so. Hope they lock him up for a long time.
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Now imagine your view targetted against a different group. Imagine a white supremacist arguing that decades of gang-related violence, drug-dealing, etc, means that it's right and good for people to hate "black" people and for sham trials to be used to convict "black" people accused of a crime.

Your position is more irrationally prejudiced than that of most white supremacists. And more racist, since "race" is the only reason this trial is happening at all. "White" people have died in similar circumstances and nothing happened because, of course, their lives didn't matter because they're an inferior race according to currently fashionable racism.
 
Skunkworks said:
The 2019 video up until he’s handcuffed will be admissible. Back to 2020 - there was a pill with GF’s saliva on it found in the back of the police car after the incident. No mention of what it was yet.
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Pills were fentanyl and methamphetamine.

They can show (only limited) parts of the 2019 tape relevant to the defence argument re: his death being due to the drugs, in the 2019 incident he swallowed drugs and (importantly) was noted to have very high blood pressure afterwards - they can't actually show the bit of the tape where the paramedic tells him he'll have a heart attack if he doesn't go to the hospital, but they can have the paramedic testify about the hypertension etc..

The prosecution wanted to bring in some psychiatrist to talk about his mental state in relation to his behavour in the incident leading to his death - the judge basically said that if that happened then the defence could use the whole of the 2019 footage as then there would be arguments about his behaviour etc... Currently, though everything form 2019 is irrelevant to this trial aside from the medical argument.
 
Malevolence said:
I posted about that a while back, it was methamphetamine and fentanyl covered in Floyds DNA.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/posts/34620497
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Am I right in thinking that stimulant+opiod is a particularly dangerous combo? I remember something from a while back, though it was cocaine and heroin back then. Speedball. I remember a spate of deaths from the combo and lots of stories about how dangerous the combo is. A quick look online seems to confirm that and to imply that the increased risk isn't specific to cocaine and heroin.
 
Angilion said:
Am I right in thinking that stimulant+opiod is a particularly dangerous combo? I remember something from a while back, though it was cocaine and heroin back then. Speedball. I remember a spate of deaths from the combo and lots of stories about how dangerous the combo is. A quick look online seems to confirm that and to imply that the increased risk isn't specific to cocaine and heroin.
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Yes, even mixing alcohol and uppers can be extremely dangerous even despite the relatively mild effect of alcohol compared to other substances.
 
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